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	<title>Comments on: Briffa&#8217;s Tornetrask Reconstruction</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Tornetrask Digital Version &#8211; Hooray! &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-343347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tornetrask Digital Version &#8211; Hooray! &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] et al 1992, the scene of what Per referred to as a &#8220;gobsmacking&#8221; adjustment, discussed here; middle from Briffa 2000, a version used in some later studies (though Juckes et al 2007 used the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] et al 1992, the scene of what Per referred to as a &#8220;gobsmacking&#8221; adjustment, discussed here; middle from Briffa 2000, a version used in some later studies (though Juckes et al 2007 used the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moderate Low Weight &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-314791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moderate Low Weight &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] only few even among regular CA readers know that also this series was &#8220;adjusted&#8221;, see Steve&#8217;s discussion of the topic from the early days of CA. Fourth series to enter the MJ03 portfolio is the Chesapeake [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only few even among regular CA readers know that also this series was &#8220;adjusted&#8221;, see Steve&#8217;s discussion of the topic from the early days of CA. Fourth series to enter the MJ03 portfolio is the Chesapeake [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calibration in the Mann et al 2007 Network Revisited &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-281413</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calibration in the Mann et al 2007 Network Revisited &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The next highest t-score comes from Briffa&#8217;s Tornetrask reconstruction. In this case, it verifies almost exactly. The problem with putting much weight on this particular reconstruction is that Briffa adjusted his results so that they worked as discussed [link]. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next highest t-score comes from Briffa&#8217;s Tornetrask reconstruction. In this case, it verifies almost exactly. The problem with putting much weight on this particular reconstruction is that Briffa adjusted his results so that they worked as discussed [link]. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: New climate data term: &#8220;bodge&#8221; &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-259505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New climate data term: &#8220;bodge&#8221; &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts – e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts – e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Muir Russell and the Briffa Bodge &#124; Another Newyork Times</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-259484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muir Russell and the Briffa Bodge &#124; Another Newyork Times]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 02:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts &#8211; e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts &#8211; e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Muir Russell and the Briffa Bodge &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-259419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muir Russell and the Briffa Bodge &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts &#8211; e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the Tornetrask chronology had been discussed in much earlier CA posts &#8211; e.g. in March 2005  here  and again [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tornetrask #4: Confidence Intervals &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-241501</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tornetrask #4: Confidence Intervals &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of my thoughts on this can be deduced merely by framing the question. If you look at the &quot;adjusted&quot; diagram, in the bottom panel, you will see that the differences between the adjusted and unadjusted versions [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of my thoughts on this can be deduced merely by framing the question. If you look at the &quot;adjusted&quot; diagram, in the bottom panel, you will see that the differences between the adjusted and unadjusted versions [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Bell</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-220689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some extracts from the searchable index:
http://eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=759&amp;filename=1164120712.txt

It seems to me that to meet IPCC precondition for coherence, datasets with a low signal to noise ratio in terms of temperature were enhanced in an attempt to extract coherent data. This is at best, risky and in this case disastrous. Although this data set is only causally connected to others, the entire process is brought into question.


&quot;The bottom line though is that these trees likely represent a mixed temperature and moisture-supply response that might
vary on longer timescales.&quot;...

&quot;Another serious issue to be considered relates to the fact that the PC1 time series in
the Mann et al. analysis was adjusted to reduce the positive slope in the last 150
years (on the assumption - following an earlier paper by Lamarche et al. - that this
incressing growth was evidence of carbon dioxide fertilization) , by differencing the
data from another record produced by other workers in northern Alaska and Canada
(which incidentally was standardised in a totally different way). This last adjustment
obviously will have a large influence on the quantification of the link between these
Western US trees and N.Hemisphere temperatures. At this point , it is fair to say that
this adjustment was arbitrary and the link between Bristlecone pine growth and CO2 is ,
at the very least, arguable. Note that at least one author (Lisa Gaumlich) has stated
that the recent growth of these trees could be temperature driven and not evidence of
CO2 fertilisation.
 I stil believe the &quot;Western US&quot; series and its interpretation in terms of Hemispheric mean
temperature is perhaps a &quot;Pandora&#039;s box&quot; that we might open at our peril!
What does Jan say about this - he is very acquainted with these issues?
cheers
Keith&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some extracts from the searchable index:<br />
<a href="http://eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=759&#038;filename=1164120712.txt" rel="nofollow">http://eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=759&#038;filename=1164120712.txt</a></p>
<p>It seems to me that to meet IPCC precondition for coherence, datasets with a low signal to noise ratio in terms of temperature were enhanced in an attempt to extract coherent data. This is at best, risky and in this case disastrous. Although this data set is only causally connected to others, the entire process is brought into question.</p>
<p>&#8220;The bottom line though is that these trees likely represent a mixed temperature and moisture-supply response that might<br />
vary on longer timescales.&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Another serious issue to be considered relates to the fact that the PC1 time series in<br />
the Mann et al. analysis was adjusted to reduce the positive slope in the last 150<br />
years (on the assumption &#8211; following an earlier paper by Lamarche et al. &#8211; that this<br />
incressing growth was evidence of carbon dioxide fertilization) , by differencing the<br />
data from another record produced by other workers in northern Alaska and Canada<br />
(which incidentally was standardised in a totally different way). This last adjustment<br />
obviously will have a large influence on the quantification of the link between these<br />
Western US trees and N.Hemisphere temperatures. At this point , it is fair to say that<br />
this adjustment was arbitrary and the link between Bristlecone pine growth and CO2 is ,<br />
at the very least, arguable. Note that at least one author (Lisa Gaumlich) has stated<br />
that the recent growth of these trees could be temperature driven and not evidence of<br />
CO2 fertilisation.<br />
 I stil believe the &#8220;Western US&#8221; series and its interpretation in terms of Hemispheric mean<br />
temperature is perhaps a &#8220;Pandora&#8217;s box&#8221; that we might open at our peril!<br />
What does Jan say about this &#8211; he is very acquainted with these issues?<br />
cheers<br />
Keith&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-32828</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correct me if I&#039;m being unfair, but would it be accurate to summarize Briffa&#039;s position as:
1) This Tornetrask adjustment to MXD data is justified because it slightly increases the R2 of the reconstruction.
2) It does not matter if hockey stick reconstructions have a low R2 because the correct measure to use is RE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m being unfair, but would it be accurate to summarize Briffa&#8217;s position as:<br />
1) This Tornetrask adjustment to MXD data is justified because it slightly increases the R2 of the reconstruction.<br />
2) It does not matter if hockey stick reconstructions have a low R2 because the correct measure to use is RE</p>
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		<title>By: ET SidViscous</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/03/27/briffas-tornetrask-reconstruction/#comment-32827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ET SidViscous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More Canned luncheon meat over here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Canned luncheon meat over here.</p>
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