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	<title>Comments on: Wahl and Ammann: Some Verification Statistics</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Matthews</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Matthews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you direct me to on-line resources on statistical analyses and verification? It has been a long time since I took any course work in statistics and I would like to have a quick refresher in these topics. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you direct me to on-line resources on statistical analyses and verification? It has been a long time since I took any course work in statistics and I would like to have a quick refresher in these topics. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hearnden</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33665</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Hearnden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 08:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #25,

OK, I understand and welcome your clarification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #25,</p>
<p>OK, I understand and welcome your clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33664</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2005 03:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve &amp; Ross,
My apologies.  Thanks for the correction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &amp; Ross,<br />
My apologies.  Thanks for the correction.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross McKitrick</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross McKitrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter: &quot;Have not&quot;, as of the present. I say this on the basis of knowing that they have only just entered the review process at each journal, both of which we are involved in. I did not say they &quot;will not&quot;, but to say they have not &quot;yet&quot; suggests a foregone conclusion that they will be publshed. Perhaps they will, but the referee process is not a rubber stamp, which is why we usually expect authors to wait until publication to put out a press release announcing their findings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: &#8220;Have not&#8221;, as of the present. I say this on the basis of knowing that they have only just entered the review process at each journal, both of which we are involved in. I did not say they &#8220;will not&#8221;, but to say they have not &#8220;yet&#8221; suggests a foregone conclusion that they will be publshed. Perhaps they will, but the referee process is not a rubber stamp, which is why we usually expect authors to wait until publication to put out a press release announcing their findings.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hearnden</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Hearnden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 08:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #20

Ross,

Is that a definite &#039;have not&#039; or is it &#039;have not yet&#039;? On what authority do you say &#039;have not&#039; (just doing an audit of your claims ;)).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #20</p>
<p>Ross,</p>
<p>Is that a definite &#8216;have not&#8217; or is it &#8216;have not yet&#8217;? On what authority do you say &#8216;have not&#8217; (just doing an audit of your claims <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mayson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Mayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 21:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #5 and #19.  Thanks - that would be much appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #5 and #19.  Thanks &#8211; that would be much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: John A</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33660</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #20

Yes, yet another &quot;announce the result before the due diligence is done&quot;. In stockmarket terms, we&#039;d call it &quot;ramping&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #20</p>
<p>Yes, yet another &#8220;announce the result before the due diligence is done&#8221;. In stockmarket terms, we&#8217;d call it &#8220;ramping&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33659</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 14:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #17

I think it&#039;s fairly simple.  Heat spreads in all directions.  As heat moves downward through the earth the &#039;temperature signal&#039; has to be diluted and thus the ability decypher how the temperature changed with time will grow less the farther you go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #17</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s fairly simple.  Heat spreads in all directions.  As heat moves downward through the earth the &#8216;temperature signal&#8217; has to be diluted and thus the ability decypher how the temperature changed with time will grow less the farther you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross McKitrick</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross McKitrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 14:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #16: W&amp;A didn&#039;t get published. They put out a press release. Or rather, the National Center for Atmospheric Research put out a press release. The papers themselves have not passed peer review and aren&#039;t published.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #16: W&amp;A didn&#8217;t get published. They put out a press release. Or rather, the National Center for Atmospheric Research put out a press release. The papers themselves have not passed peer review and aren&#8217;t published.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/05/17/wahl-and-ammann-first-verification-statistics/#comment-33657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spence_UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2005 11:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #5

I would be happy to have a pop at trying to describe some of the statistics, especially if it would help free up some of Steve&#039;s time - although I&#039;m not going to be able to have a crack at this just yet, I&#039;m running a fairly big event (voluntary work) this weekend which is taking up all of my spare time at the moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #5</p>
<p>I would be happy to have a pop at trying to describe some of the statistics, especially if it would help free up some of Steve&#8217;s time &#8211; although I&#8217;m not going to be able to have a crack at this just yet, I&#8217;m running a fairly big event (voluntary work) this weekend which is taking up all of my spare time at the moment.</p>
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