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	<title>Comments on: Roll Over, Preisendorfer</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Smith on PC Retention &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-285361</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Smith on PC Retention &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] components who was cited in MBH98, provided the following advice in his text- advice quoted at CA here:  The null hypothesis of a dominant variance selection rule [such as Rule N] says that Z is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] components who was cited in MBH98, provided the following advice in his text- advice quoted at CA here:  The null hypothesis of a dominant variance selection rule [such as Rule N] says that Z is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, a while ago Ross said that the different PCs were not wieghted differently (PC1 more then PC2) within the reconstruction (other then the yes/no cutoff of course).  One of our new commenters did talk about weighting.  Which is most appropriate?  Weighting or not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, a while ago Ross said that the different PCs were not wieghted differently (PC1 more then PC2) within the reconstruction (other then the yes/no cutoff of course).  One of our new commenters did talk about weighting.  Which is most appropriate?  Weighting or not?</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not even clear to me if Steve understood the decision on Preisendorfer &quot;n&quot;ing.  If not, fine admit it.  If so, why wasn&#039;t this made more prominent in the paper?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not even clear to me if Steve understood the decision on Preisendorfer &#8220;n&#8221;ing.  If not, fine admit it.  If so, why wasn&#8217;t this made more prominent in the paper?</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading back over this is interesting.  I think there is a tendancy for Steve to confound two changes when looking at an issue.  For instance centering/standard deviation dividing.  In this case, centering/preisendorfer n&#039;ing.  All are arguable, but they should be clearly layed out.  For instance, here it would have been better to make the Preisendorfer n arguments in advance or just to show the effects in more of a full factorial BC manner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading back over this is interesting.  I think there is a tendancy for Steve to confound two changes when looking at an issue.  For instance centering/standard deviation dividing.  In this case, centering/preisendorfer n&#8217;ing.  All are arguable, but they should be clearly layed out.  For instance, here it would have been better to make the Preisendorfer n arguments in advance or just to show the effects in more of a full factorial BC manner.</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The TCO cherry-popping (not picking) thread is still missing my initial comment...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The TCO cherry-popping (not picking) thread is still missing my initial comment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[moberg, ambio daly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moberg, ambio daly?</p>
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		<title>By: John A</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #80 fFreddy, I would have said &quot;post-modernist&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #80 fFreddy, I would have said &#8220;post-modernist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunter</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fFreddy (#80): You say &quot;Oh, right. You&#039;re an arts graduate.&quot;.

Is that just a gratuitous slur on arts graduates or an attempt at a serious comment? If the latter, then please explain (if Steve hasn&#039;t sensibly censored your comment before then).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fFreddy (#80): You say &#8220;Oh, right. You&#8217;re an arts graduate.&#8221;.</p>
<p>Is that just a gratuitous slur on arts graduates or an attempt at a serious comment? If the latter, then please explain (if Steve hasn&#8217;t sensibly censored your comment before then).</p>
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		<title>By: fFreddy</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fFreddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #77, John Hunter.

&lt;blockquote&gt;There are many shades of truth, clouded by uncertainty. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, right. You&#039;re an arts graduate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #77, John Hunter.</p>
<blockquote><p>There are many shades of truth, clouded by uncertainty. </p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, right. You&#8217;re an arts graduate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/08/05/roll-over-preisendorfer/#comment-35422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are many shades of truth, clouded by uncertainty.&quot;

So pi isn&#039;t know to millions of digits, the sun doesn&#039;t rise in the east in the mornings (usual caveats applying), and AGW is only one of many &#039;truths&#039; concerning climate change.  [My favorite &#039;truth&#039; is that the world is warming slightly from the heat generated by butterflies beating their wings in frustration for being blamed for hurricanes and suchnot.]

One thing for sure, however.  To many regulars here you appear to be wasting Steve&#039;s time on trivial things.  Therefore your distortions and lack of logic aren&#039;t going to be overlooked.  &quot;And,&quot; as Edith Ann would say, &quot;that&#039;s the truth!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are many shades of truth, clouded by uncertainty.&#8221;</p>
<p>So pi isn&#8217;t know to millions of digits, the sun doesn&#8217;t rise in the east in the mornings (usual caveats applying), and AGW is only one of many &#8216;truths&#8217; concerning climate change.  [My favorite 'truth' is that the world is warming slightly from the heat generated by butterflies beating their wings in frustration for being blamed for hurricanes and suchnot.]</p>
<p>One thing for sure, however.  To many regulars here you appear to be wasting Steve&#8217;s time on trivial things.  Therefore your distortions and lack of logic aren&#8217;t going to be overlooked.  &#8220;And,&#8221; as Edith Ann would say, &#8220;that&#8217;s the truth!&#8221;</p>
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