Comments on: Esper et al. [2002]: looking for the rama-ding-dong http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/ by Steve McIntyre Mon, 20 May 2013 20:19:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37304 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:58:39 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37304 Winnipeg? yikes, that’s for Lambert’s grad school. No, I was in Toronto. No idea who the first little pig was.

]]> By: TCO http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37303 Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:46:32 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37303 you were the first pig?

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37302 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:19:20 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37302 If they were mint condition, maybe. But these were played on old record players at university back in the day.

I’ve got a friend who’s a doctor in Toronto who played in a high school band. He was telling us one day about their last week at high school in Winnipeg – if you remember the movie American Graffiti, it sounds like that. So the guys in the band were talking about what they were going to do. The first little pig (I have young grandchildren) said that he was going to go into geophysics because that’s where the money was. Bad call that. The second little pig (my friend) went and became a doctor. Better call. The third little pig said that he wanted to keep the band together, but the other little pigs had higher goals. So the third little pig said that he was going to go to L.A. anyway and make it in music. So that’s what happened to Neil Young.

]]> By: Brooks Hurd http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37301 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 21:14:51 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37301 Steve,
That old vinyl may now be worth significantly more then you might expect. A couple of years ago a friend who has some knowledge of vinyl told me that my It’s a Beautiful Day album might be worth several thousand dollars. I am not sure that I fully believe him, but it is a comforting thought.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37300 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:42:06 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37300 Having gone to the Beatles and Stones concerts in Toronto in the mid-1960s, I’m amazed that the Stones are still around. Mick Jagger seems pretty business-like now (and, after all, went to LSE), but his image then had the same market niche as 50 Cent now. My local Starbucks has all the old Bob Dylan albums of my youth on its playlist. I still have all my old vinyl LPS; I hate to throw them out or give them away. I’ve got some interesting albums – things like a very old Ike & Tina Turner album, when Tina was about Beyonce’s age.

]]> By: Dave Dardinger http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37299 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:32:47 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37299 Another thing nobody’s done yet is look up the actual words in that refrain. See for instance:

http://www.jacquedee63.com/whoputthebomp.html

Who put the bomp
In the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
Who put the ram
In the rama lama ding dong?
Who put the bop
In the bop shoo bop shoo bop?
Who put the dip
In the dip da dip da dip?
Who was that man?
I’d like to shake his hand
He made my baby
Fall in love with me

The real kicker, of course, is that the song was written by….

Barry Mann !! (I bet your subconscious knew that, Steve)

]]> By: David Stockwell http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37298 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:36:00 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37298 An observation nobody seems to have commented on pertains to the claim often made that numerous other studies support the Mann Hockeystick graph. Tree ring Esper reconstruction (Fig 2) above and glacial reconstruction (Figure 3A) in Extracting a Climate Signal from 169 Glacier Records, J. Oerlemans, Science 29 April 2005; 308: 675-677 both show the distinct dip in temperature after 1940 hardly rising above the 1940 maximum, while the Mann ‘blade’ extends the same distance from 1900 to 1940 again.

Its as if the Esper and Oerlemans reconstructions break the blade in half. Shouldn’t the conclusion be that other proxy studies contradict the Mann reconstruction rather than support it?

]]> By: John A http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37297 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:18:31 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37297 By the way, if there’s a prize for surrealism in post titles, then this one deserves – a bath full of eels.

]]> By: John A http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37296 Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:18:55 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37296 Is it possible to statistically measure the cross-correlation between linear and non-linear sites?

The aspect that is very worrying is the small sample size in the MWP – meaning that the MWP “signal” may be nothing more than random walk for all we know.

]]> By: Ed Snack http://climateaudit.org/2005/09/14/esper-et-al-2002-2/#comment-37295 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:01:06 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=366#comment-37295 Steve, first link to the pdf not working ?

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