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	<title>Comments on: Monsoon Moberg</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39945</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, what happened to my Pig Latin post?  I&#039;m pretty sure it was here earlier.  I bet the silly gatekeeper program here thought the phrase in pig latin was some sort of ...  you know what.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, what happened to my Pig Latin post?  I&#8217;m pretty sure it was here earlier.  I bet the silly gatekeeper program here thought the phrase in pig latin was some sort of &#8230;  you know what.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spence_UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the pigs have outwitted you intellectually, mud-slinging is pretty much the only course of action left available.

Metaphors can be fun :)  They don&#039;t really advance the scientific debate though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the pigs have outwitted you intellectually, mud-slinging is pretty much the only course of action left available.</p>
<p>Metaphors can be fun <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   They don&#8217;t really advance the scientific debate though.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen,

I&#039;ve found your posts most entertaining.

1)  You claim to &quot;stop mud wrestling&quot; with the pigs, yet jump back in the pen.

2)  No statement was mad that ALL of your posts were not agreed to. Only the topic at hand.

3)  It is clear that RC doesn&#039;t allow dissenting views.  To trumpet your ability to post without response doesn&#039;t mean anything except that you don&#039;t disagree with their theology (it can&#039;t be science as they won&#039;t let any but the initiated into their inner circle to see the Truth).

Please keep posting...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found your posts most entertaining.</p>
<p>1)  You claim to &#8220;stop mud wrestling&#8221; with the pigs, yet jump back in the pen.</p>
<p>2)  No statement was mad that ALL of your posts were not agreed to. Only the topic at hand.</p>
<p>3)  It is clear that RC doesn&#8217;t allow dissenting views.  To trumpet your ability to post without response doesn&#8217;t mean anything except that you don&#8217;t disagree with their theology (it can&#8217;t be science as they won&#8217;t let any but the initiated into their inner circle to see the Truth).</p>
<p>Please keep posting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Berg</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39942</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Berg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #20, &quot;Face it Stephen, even realclimate doesn&#039;t agree with you...&quot;

That&#039;s incorrect.  Most of what I&#039;ve said on RC has not needed a response by one of the mods.  Therefore, most of what I&#039;ve written there has been agreed with.

This is not the same case with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #20, &#8220;Face it Stephen, even realclimate doesn&#8217;t agree with you&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s incorrect.  Most of what I&#8217;ve said on RC has not needed a response by one of the mods.  Therefore, most of what I&#8217;ve written there has been agreed with.</p>
<p>This is not the same case with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Erren</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans Erren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Face it Stephen, even realclimate doesn&#039;t agree with you...

Hey, look at me, I agree with realclimate!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it Stephen, even realclimate doesn&#8217;t agree with you&#8230;</p>
<p>Hey, look at me, I agree with realclimate!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Berg</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Berg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s time for me to stop mud wrestling with a pig.  I&#039;ll end up getting filthy and the pig just ends up liking it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time for me to stop mud wrestling with a pig.  I&#8217;ll end up getting filthy and the pig just ends up liking it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39939</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: #15

My apologies to Peter Hearnden.  To think I thought warmers didn&#039;t have a sense of humor!  Tell whoever this &#039;Steven Berg&#039; really is that he had me on the floor laughing!  I should have seen the signs in his earlier one-liners.

The all-caps pop-eyed fanatic impression is hilarious.  The delicate irony of calling models projecting 300 years into the future science is especially witty and the final appeal saying in essence to &#039;move on&#039; and realize that I will be assimilated is redolent with the aroma of mid-90s America.  All in all a post to be remembered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #15</p>
<p>My apologies to Peter Hearnden.  To think I thought warmers didn&#8217;t have a sense of humor!  Tell whoever this &#8216;Steven Berg&#8217; really is that he had me on the floor laughing!  I should have seen the signs in his earlier one-liners.</p>
<p>The all-caps pop-eyed fanatic impression is hilarious.  The delicate irony of calling models projecting 300 years into the future science is especially witty and the final appeal saying in essence to &#8216;move on&#8217; and realize that I will be assimilated is redolent with the aroma of mid-90s America.  All in all a post to be remembered.</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39938</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spence_UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #13

The media just laps up these extreme model results, but scientists know they should be surrounded by caveats.  Even the RealClimate crowd, who are not afraid to provide half the story if it helps sell the warming theory, shy away from these kind of outputs.  For another example, see:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=115&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=115&lt;/a&gt;

And please bear in mind that CLIMATE MODELS can be just as wrong as WEATHER MODELS whether caps lock is on or off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #13</p>
<p>The media just laps up these extreme model results, but scientists know they should be surrounded by caveats.  Even the RealClimate crowd, who are not afraid to provide half the story if it helps sell the warming theory, shy away from these kind of outputs.  For another example, see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=115" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=115</a></p>
<p>And please bear in mind that CLIMATE MODELS can be just as wrong as WEATHER MODELS whether caps lock is on or off.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Linsay</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39937</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Linsay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#13, Dear Stephen,  an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.essaylib.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;essay&lt;/a&gt; question for you based on your statement  &quot;this was done on a CLIMATE MODEL and not a WEATHER MODEL.&quot;  Write a short essay explaining the difference between climate and weather.  Some statements to think about while writing. (a) there is no relation between climate and weather (b) there&#039;s some relation between climate and weather ( c) the climate is just an average of the past weather.  If I can&#039;t predict the weather long term how can I predict the climate if (c ) is true?  If (a) is true what am I predicting?  Final question for your essay:  Is the LLNL climate model any better than the Farmer&#039;s Almanac at forecasting next year&#039;s climate? Or is it weather?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13, Dear Stephen,  an <a href="http://www.essaylib.com/" rel="nofollow">essay</a> question for you based on your statement  &#8220;this was done on a CLIMATE MODEL and not a WEATHER MODEL.&#8221;  Write a short essay explaining the difference between climate and weather.  Some statements to think about while writing. (a) there is no relation between climate and weather (b) there&#8217;s some relation between climate and weather ( c) the climate is just an average of the past weather.  If I can&#8217;t predict the weather long term how can I predict the climate if (c ) is true?  If (a) is true what am I predicting?  Final question for your essay:  Is the LLNL climate model any better than the Farmer&#8217;s Almanac at forecasting next year&#8217;s climate? Or is it weather?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Berg</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/31/monsoon-moberg/#comment-39936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Berg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #14,

THIS IS NOT JUNK SCIENCE, DAVE!!!  It is scientifically-valid research!  Get it through your head!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #14,</p>
<p>THIS IS NOT JUNK SCIENCE, DAVE!!!  It is scientifically-valid research!  Get it through your head!</p>
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