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	<title>Comments on: Materials Complaint on Moberg: Update</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=440, although nothing&#039;s been done so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=440" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=440</a>, although nothing&#8217;s been done so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Castles</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Castles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,  Do you have any developments to report on the Materials Complaint against Nature that you lodged on 9 September?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,  Do you have any developments to report on the Materials Complaint against Nature that you lodged on 9 September?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sustainable, TCO?

Isn&#039;t that one of the envirowacko&#039;s code words meaning if you&#039;re poor we&#039;re gong to make you stay poor so we can sustain the wealth we&#039;ve become accustomed to here in the first world?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sustainable, TCO?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that one of the envirowacko&#8217;s code words meaning if you&#8217;re poor we&#8217;re gong to make you stay poor so we can sustain the wealth we&#8217;ve become accustomed to here in the first world?</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spence_UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I reckon Steve left us a bit of a cliff hanger because he was planning to go away for a few days.  He was probably worried that people like John Hunter would get bored and go away, so dangled a little carrot here for them to encourage them to stay.

:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon Steve left us a bit of a cliff hanger because he was planning to go away for a few days.  He was probably worried that people like John Hunter would get bored and go away, so dangled a little carrot here for them to encourage them to stay.<br />
 <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John wants to beat him up for lack of transparency if he doesn&#039;t share stuff or to beat him up for not following community norms if he reveals something that has not yet published.

And...he has a bit of right on his side in that Steve&#039;s comment defines the term &quot;half-pregnant&quot;.

I still think we are doing better than the RC guys with their censorship (on one aspect) and then with citing/press-releasing unpublished and then rejected papers (on the other side).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John wants to beat him up for lack of transparency if he doesn&#8217;t share stuff or to beat him up for not following community norms if he reveals something that has not yet published.</p>
<p>And&#8230;he has a bit of right on his side in that Steve&#8217;s comment defines the term &#8220;half-pregnant&#8221;.</p>
<p>I still think we are doing better than the RC guys with their censorship (on one aspect) and then with citing/press-releasing unpublished and then rejected papers (on the other side).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #11

The thing is, John, that Steve doesn&#039;t know if he&#039;s allowed to post the message he got from Nature or not.  Therefore he doesn&#039;t want to try pretend that something has happened and mislead people, but he did, for whatever reason, want to indicate that something has happened.  I suppose this could be another rebuff from the Climate powers-that-be or it could be something positive from his POV.

Surely you wouldn&#039;t want Steve to leak information, now would you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #11</p>
<p>The thing is, John, that Steve doesn&#8217;t know if he&#8217;s allowed to post the message he got from Nature or not.  Therefore he doesn&#8217;t want to try pretend that something has happened and mislead people, but he did, for whatever reason, want to indicate that something has happened.  I suppose this could be another rebuff from the Climate powers-that-be or it could be something positive from his POV.</p>
<p>Surely you wouldn&#8217;t want Steve to leak information, now would you?</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, It&#039;s the night before Chris (Fitz) mas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, It&#8217;s the night before Chris (Fitz) mas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lubo Motl</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lubo Motl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there were a global contest to look for demonstrable problems with other climate papers, you would probably win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there were a global contest to look for demonstrable problems with other climate papers, you would probably win.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunter</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve (#6):

&gt; It is intentionally obscure. If I wanted to say what I mean, I would have. I&#039;m offline
&gt; for 4 days starting in 3 hours so everyone will be on their own.

This seems a funny way to behave. If the intention was to deliberately mislead, then I could understand. But -- silly me -- I thought this site was meant to educate .....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve (#6):</p>
<p>&gt; It is intentionally obscure. If I wanted to say what I mean, I would have. I&#8217;m offline<br />
&gt; for 4 days starting in 3 hours so everyone will be on their own.</p>
<p>This seems a funny way to behave. If the intention was to deliberately mislead, then I could understand. But &#8212; silly me &#8212; I thought this site was meant to educate &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/07/materials-complaint-on-moberg-update/#comment-40693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s just not right... just not right.

mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s just not right&#8230; just not right.</p>
<p>mark</p>
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