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	<title>Comments on: US Climate Change Science Program Workshop</title>
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		<title>By: Cassandra è tornata &#124; Climate Monitor</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-242259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cassandra è tornata &#124; Climate Monitor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] più pioggia e più siccità  (la frase, come riportato da chi vi ha assistito è stata: &#8220;wet get wetter, the dry get drier&#8220;. Questa la chiamerei comunicazione scientifica di alto [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] più pioggia e più siccità  (la frase, come riportato da chi vi ha assistito è stata: &#8220;wet get wetter, the dry get drier&#8220;. Questa la chiamerei comunicazione scientifica di alto [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jankowski</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-40773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Jankowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[***He connected the landfall positions of hurricanes to movements of the Bermuda High, with a more southwest location steering hurricanes to the Gulf Coast. So regardless of one&#039;s views of the connection of hurricanes to global warming, there are alternative reasons for prudence relative to future hurricanes in the Gulf Coast.***

If his research holds up and hits the mainstream, then how many years will it be before someone &quot;links&quot; FUTURE &quot;movement of the Bermuda High&quot; to AGW, resulting in the prediction of more Gulf Coast landfalls?

***I don&#039;t entirely understand the theory why, under warmer climates, it is believed that the wet get wetter and the dry get drier.***

It&#039;s not always so.  Sometimes, you have to tell the wet people they will get dry.  You don&#039;t want to tell the dry people their land will become wet and fertile, so you have to instead say they&#039;ll get massive flooding.

There was that disastrous (nat&#039;l assessment?) paper on the US a few years ago where the Hadley and Canadian models both predicted large doses of GW for the US in the next 50-100 years but were often in complete disagreement with the resulting precipitation and soil moisture content.  I had a hard time finding it the last time I looked for it, but I had found it in the past 6 months.  So much for the simplicity of &quot;wet get wetter, dry get drier&quot; if you put your faith in some of the world&#039;s &quot;best&quot; climate models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***He connected the landfall positions of hurricanes to movements of the Bermuda High, with a more southwest location steering hurricanes to the Gulf Coast. So regardless of one&#8217;s views of the connection of hurricanes to global warming, there are alternative reasons for prudence relative to future hurricanes in the Gulf Coast.***</p>
<p>If his research holds up and hits the mainstream, then how many years will it be before someone &#8220;links&#8221; FUTURE &#8220;movement of the Bermuda High&#8221; to AGW, resulting in the prediction of more Gulf Coast landfalls?</p>
<p>***I don&#8217;t entirely understand the theory why, under warmer climates, it is believed that the wet get wetter and the dry get drier.***</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not always so.  Sometimes, you have to tell the wet people they will get dry.  You don&#8217;t want to tell the dry people their land will become wet and fertile, so you have to instead say they&#8217;ll get massive flooding.</p>
<p>There was that disastrous (nat&#8217;l assessment?) paper on the US a few years ago where the Hadley and Canadian models both predicted large doses of GW for the US in the next 50-100 years but were often in complete disagreement with the resulting precipitation and soil moisture content.  I had a hard time finding it the last time I looked for it, but I had found it in the past 6 months.  So much for the simplicity of &#8220;wet get wetter, dry get drier&#8221; if you put your faith in some of the world&#8217;s &#8220;best&#8221; climate models.</p>
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		<title>By: TCO</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-40772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1.  Ever read Chris Buckley&#039;s THANK YOU FOR SMOKING?  Similar description of a muckety muck federal funded conference.

2.  I&#039;m in DC frequently.  If you want, I will buy you a drink some time.  I&#039;m more pleasant in person than on the net...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Ever read Chris Buckley&#8217;s THANK YOU FOR SMOKING?  Similar description of a muckety muck federal funded conference.</p>
<p>2.  I&#8217;m in DC frequently.  If you want, I will buy you a drink some time.  I&#8217;m more pleasant in person than on the net&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Erren</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-40771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hans Erren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just learned that UNFCCC COP-11 is 28 November to 9 December 2005 in Montreal, which is not that far from Toronto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just learned that UNFCCC COP-11 is 28 November to 9 December 2005 in Montreal, which is not that far from Toronto.</p>
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		<title>By: The Knowing One</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-40770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Knowing One]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much for this.  Not to seem too greedy, but elsewhere you mentioned that you&#039;d had lunch at the House of Lords before going to Washington--would you tell about that too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for this.  Not to seem too greedy, but elsewhere you mentioned that you&#8217;d had lunch at the House of Lords before going to Washington&#8211;would you tell about that too?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2005/11/19/us-climate-change-science-program-workshop-2/#comment-40769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the summary of the conference.  I found one typo interesting:

&lt;blockquote&gt;climate scientists use &quot;prospectus&quot; to describe a scooping document used to raise money from the funding agency.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I assume it&#039;s a typo since you have &quot;scope&quot; several other places.  OTOH maybe you were either consciously or unconsciously trying to indicate

a)  The scientists were scooping up money;

b)  They were scooping their fellow scientists in the journalistic sense and marking their turf; or
c)  They were using shovels to live up to the standard mock acronymization of PhD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the summary of the conference.  I found one typo interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>climate scientists use &#8220;prospectus&#8221; to describe a scooping document used to raise money from the funding agency.</p></blockquote>
<p>I assume it&#8217;s a typo since you have &#8220;scope&#8221; several other places.  OTOH maybe you were either consciously or unconsciously trying to indicate</p>
<p>a)  The scientists were scooping up money;</p>
<p>b)  They were scooping their fellow scientists in the journalistic sense and marking their turf; or<br />
c)  They were using shovels to live up to the standard mock acronymization of PhD.</p>
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