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	<title>Comments on: The Tip of the Hockey Stick</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/02/02/the-tip-of-the-hockey-stick/#comment-43135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I note that the latest response to the above by the curiously named DoDo claims you admitted having not read the 2005 Rutherford &amp; Mann paper.  What you actually said at the point he links to is:  &lt;blockquote&gt; As I mentioned before, I&#039;ve not gone through Rutherford, Mann et al. to see if they&#039;ve avoided the Bürger and Cubasch criticisms - it would amaze me if they did. For example, Rutherford, Mann et al. astonishingly use the original MBH98 tree ring principal components series in their primary analyses. In fact, I doubt that Rutherford, Mann et al. actually avoid any of the Bürger and Cubasch critiques, but, hey, it&#039;s in Journal of Climate. Andrew Weaver edited it, so what further proof would anyone require. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Anyone who is familiar with this site and can read with understand will realize that what you said is that you hadn&#039;t had the time yet to totally subject that paper to analysis to see how, if at all, it stood up to the Bürger and Cubasch criticisms.  That&#039;s a far different thing.  But what can you expect from the team (and/or its hangers-on)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that the latest response to the above by the curiously named DoDo claims you admitted having not read the 2005 Rutherford &amp; Mann paper.  What you actually said at the point he links to is:<br />
<blockquote> As I mentioned before, I&#8217;ve not gone through Rutherford, Mann et al. to see if they&#8217;ve avoided the Bürger and Cubasch criticisms &#8211; it would amaze me if they did. For example, Rutherford, Mann et al. astonishingly use the original MBH98 tree ring principal components series in their primary analyses. In fact, I doubt that Rutherford, Mann et al. actually avoid any of the Bürger and Cubasch critiques, but, hey, it&#8217;s in Journal of Climate. Andrew Weaver edited it, so what further proof would anyone require. </p></blockquote>
<p>Anyone who is familiar with this site and can read with understand will realize that what you said is that you hadn&#8217;t had the time yet to totally subject that paper to analysis to see how, if at all, it stood up to the Bürger and Cubasch criticisms.  That&#8217;s a far different thing.  But what can you expect from the team (and/or its hangers-on)?</p>
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