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		<title>By: Dan Hughes</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan Hughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re:#79, 80, 81

The S/N over there is so tiny it&#039;s difficult to determine that tamino has responded to fine technical issues with a fine technical response.  Generally so it seems to me, he dodges the toughies and always plays to his peanut gallery.  The tech/nontech content there is also tiny, Imho.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:#79, 80, 81</p>
<p>The S/N over there is so tiny it&#8217;s difficult to determine that tamino has responded to fine technical issues with a fine technical response.  Generally so it seems to me, he dodges the toughies and always plays to his peanut gallery.  The tech/nontech content there is also tiny, Imho.</p>
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		<title>By: RomanM</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47530</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks mosh.  On the weekend I did some readin&#039; and thinkin&#039; and thought that the best approach was to do the math and look at the effects from that angle.  I was pleasantly surprised by the very polite reception since on one occasion earlier he had lumped me in with bore hole climatology ( I couldn&#039;t tell my ### from a hole in the ground).  I give him credit that he has never kept any of my posts there from appearing as is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mosh.  On the weekend I did some readin&#8217; and thinkin&#8217; and thought that the best approach was to do the math and look at the effects from that angle.  I was pleasantly surprised by the very polite reception since on one occasion earlier he had lumped me in with bore hole climatology ( I couldn&#8217;t tell my ### from a hole in the ground).  I give him credit that he has never kept any of my posts there from appearing as is.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice follow up Post on tammy RomanM.  I have to thank you here, since I&#039;m BOOM. Banned On Open Mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice follow up Post on tammy RomanM.  I have to thank you here, since I&#8217;m BOOM. Banned On Open Mind.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkW</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Would that be in cartesian or polar coordinates?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2. </p></blockquote>
<p>Would that be in cartesian or polar coordinates?</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody give tammy homework for the week

http://web.grinnell.edu/individuals/kuipers/stat2labs/Handouts/GW%20Paper%20USCOTS.doc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody give tammy homework for the week</p>
<p><a href="http://web.grinnell.edu/individuals/kuipers/stat2labs/Handouts/GW%20Paper%20USCOTS.doc" rel="nofollow">http://web.grinnell.edu/individuals/kuipers/stat2labs/Handouts/GW%20Paper%20USCOTS.doc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: #66

&lt;blockquote&gt;I had wondered why you hadn&#039;t responded to Tamino and now I know that you did but were censored. I have to ask, tho, why you used strong language, like BS, in your original post and response. BS it may be, but to get your message heard wouldn&#039;t it be better to write respectfully?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After reading the exchange, I strained my brain to come up with better terminology for Tamino&#039;s responses and I kept coming up with BS and more BS. Contrast Jean S&#039;s measured response in terms of how a statistician would handle the process using accepted practices and how Tamino deals with it with partial averages and Rule N.  I do not think one needs to be a practicing statistician to see that those attempting to rescue the MBH methodology tend to use a lot of BS -- creative and inventive, but BS just the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #66</p>
<blockquote><p>I had wondered why you hadn&#8217;t responded to Tamino and now I know that you did but were censored. I have to ask, tho, why you used strong language, like BS, in your original post and response. BS it may be, but to get your message heard wouldn&#8217;t it be better to write respectfully?</p></blockquote>
<p>After reading the exchange, I strained my brain to come up with better terminology for Tamino&#8217;s responses and I kept coming up with BS and more BS. Contrast Jean S&#8217;s measured response in terms of how a statistician would handle the process using accepted practices and how Tamino deals with it with partial averages and Rule N.  I do not think one needs to be a practicing statistician to see that those attempting to rescue the MBH methodology tend to use a lot of BS &#8212; creative and inventive, but BS just the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Loehle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Loehle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan says:  &quot;2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2. But let&#039;s turn to the models and see what they have to say.&quot;

ha ha ha ha!!! priceless]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan says:  &#8220;2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2. But let&#8217;s turn to the models and see what they have to say.&#8221;</p>
<p>ha ha ha ha!!! priceless</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sherrington</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoff Sherrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In looking at the backgrounds of the combatants, I modestly propose
Sherrington&#039;s Postulate 2008:

&quot;The value of a scientist is enhanced by the experience of hurt from personal falure; it is more greatly enhanced by the enjoyment of acknowledged personal success.&quot;

Rider. When the scientist has no objective test for success or failure, do not use this Postulate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In looking at the backgrounds of the combatants, I modestly propose<br />
Sherrington&#8217;s Postulate 2008:</p>
<p>&#8220;The value of a scientist is enhanced by the experience of hurt from personal falure; it is more greatly enhanced by the enjoyment of acknowledged personal success.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rider. When the scientist has no objective test for success or failure, do not use this Postulate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Schafer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Schafer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#72


&lt;blockquote&gt;Comments designed to annoy tamino: 2+2=4&lt;/blockquote&gt;

2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2.  But let&#039;s turn to the models and see what they have to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72</p>
<blockquote><p>Comments designed to annoy tamino: 2+2=4</p></blockquote>
<p>2+2=4 is only true for sufficiently large values of 2.  But let&#8217;s turn to the models and see what they have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/03/29/some-principal-components-illustrations/#comment-47522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 69. Comments designed to annoy tamino: 2+2=4. and other assorted truths]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 69. Comments designed to annoy tamino: 2+2=4. and other assorted truths</p>
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