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	<title>Comments on: Enron&#8217;s Climate Change Policy</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Lehman Bros. and Consensus &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-222799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lehman Bros. and Consensus &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in climate change policy. I was prudent enough to save a pdf of their policy position, which I reported on a couple of years [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2000, Mayor Marc H. Morial, New Orleans received the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/2007/pdf/EPApresspacket.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;same EPA award &lt;/a&gt;as Enron. I guess that his foresight was even more fully recognized in 2005.

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Under Mr. Morial&#039;s leadership, the City of New Orleans joined the Cities for Climate Protection Program. This program requires member cities to pass a climate protection resolution, to establish a baseline emissions profile, to identify a reduction target, to prepare a local action plan and to initiate actions to reduce multiple emissions. In 1997, New Orleans hosted a town-hall meeting of national and local leaders to discuss the risks of climate change and the vulnerabilities faced by New Orleans. New Orleans will host the next workshop of the Cities for Climate Protection that will focus on transportation and public education. Mr. Morial successfully submitted a resolution on climate change at the last United States Council of Mayors meeting to make global warming a priority and to develop and implement policies that work with local communities to reduce domestic sources of greenhouse gas emissions&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2000, Mayor Marc H. Morial, New Orleans received the <a href="http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/news/2007/pdf/EPApresspacket.pdf" rel="nofollow">same EPA award </a>as Enron. I guess that his foresight was even more fully recognized in 2005.</p>
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Under Mr. Morial&#8217;s leadership, the City of New Orleans joined the Cities for Climate Protection Program. This program requires member cities to pass a climate protection resolution, to establish a baseline emissions profile, to identify a reduction target, to prepare a local action plan and to initiate actions to reduce multiple emissions. In 1997, New Orleans hosted a town-hall meeting of national and local leaders to discuss the risks of climate change and the vulnerabilities faced by New Orleans. New Orleans will host the next workshop of the Cities for Climate Protection that will focus on transportation and public education. Mr. Morial successfully submitted a resolution on climate change at the last United States Council of Mayors meeting to make global warming a priority and to develop and implement policies that work with local communities to reduce domestic sources of greenhouse gas emissions</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: chiz</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51933</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post. You make some great points that most people do not fully understand.

&quot;I don&#039;t want to engage personally in a thread about carbon trading, other than to say that, as someone with some limited international trading experience, I can think of some important reasons why a person concerned about climate change could rationally oppose the Kyoto trading system as a relevant means of achieving that goal.&quot;

I like how you explained that. Very helpful. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. You make some great points that most people do not fully understand.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want to engage personally in a thread about carbon trading, other than to say that, as someone with some limited international trading experience, I can think of some important reasons why a person concerned about climate change could rationally oppose the Kyoto trading system as a relevant means of achieving that goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like how you explained that. Very helpful. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonnie</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sonnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 11:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But wait. I thought Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) was a good thing. Comment by ET SidViscous &quot;¢&#039;¬?

Yes, it&#039;s suppose to be...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wait. I thought Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) was a good thing. Comment by ET SidViscous &#8220;¢&#8217;¬?</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s suppose to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve- My comment gets bounced for some reason, but this is what I tried to leave on your Enron Climate Change Policy post:

Steve- That definition is straight out of the Framework Convention on Climate Change:
Pielke, Jr., R.A., 2005. Misdefining climate change: consequences for science and action, Environmental Science Policy, Vol. 8, pp. 548-561.&lt;a href=&quot;http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-1841-2004.10.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here&lt;/a&gt;
Best regards, Roger

&lt;strong&gt;Steve: &lt;/strong&gt;  I had an extremely difficult time posting your comment as well.  Roger, you used an abbreviation for the Framework Convention which Spam Karma confused with another F-word. Sometimes Spam Karma amazes me with its seeming intelligence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve- My comment gets bounced for some reason, but this is what I tried to leave on your Enron Climate Change Policy post:</p>
<p>Steve- That definition is straight out of the Framework Convention on Climate Change:<br />
Pielke, Jr., R.A., 2005. Misdefining climate change: consequences for science and action, Environmental Science Policy, Vol. 8, pp. 548-561.<a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-1841-2004.10.pdf" rel="nofollow"> here</a><br />
Best regards, Roger</p>
<p><strong>Steve: </strong>  I had an extremely difficult time posting your comment as well.  Roger, you used an abbreviation for the Framework Convention which Spam Karma confused with another F-word. Sometimes Spam Karma amazes me with its seeming intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Hissink</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis Hissink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 13:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paraphrasing Steve:

&quot;Climate change is a phenomenon that occurs when &quot;greenhouse gases&quot; are released into the atmosphere&quot;.

Isn&#039;t this a non sequitor?

Sorry :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paraphrasing Steve:</p>
<p>&#8220;Climate change is a phenomenon that occurs when &#8220;greenhouse gases&#8221; are released into the atmosphere&#8221;.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this a non sequitor?</p>
<p>Sorry <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ET SidViscous</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ET SidViscous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 06:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But wait. I thought Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) was a good thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But wait. I thought Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) was a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Frank</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/05/27/enrons-climate-change-policy/#comment-51928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 05:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve wrote: &quot;I can think of some important reasons why a person concerned about climate change could rationally oppose the Kyoto trading system as a relevant means of achieving that goal.&quot;

Such as what?  :-)

I, too, like how &quot;climate change&quot; is pamphletically defined. It&#039;s defined that way in GCM&#039;s too, as Doug Hoyt pointed out. Without human-produced CO2 as a driver, GCM&#039;s pretty much predict a flat climate. There&#039;s a reassuring result that should inspire confidence in GCM futurology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve wrote: &#8220;I can think of some important reasons why a person concerned about climate change could rationally oppose the Kyoto trading system as a relevant means of achieving that goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such as what?  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I, too, like how &#8220;climate change&#8221; is pamphletically defined. It&#8217;s defined that way in GCM&#8217;s too, as Doug Hoyt pointed out. Without human-produced CO2 as a driver, GCM&#8217;s pretty much predict a flat climate. There&#8217;s a reassuring result that should inspire confidence in GCM futurology.</p>
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