Comments on: Spot the Hockey Stick #15: NOAA and a reply to Jerry Pournelle

By: Chris Wood

Chris Wood — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:32:06 +0000

I suggest those who believe the Medieval Warm period ‘probably did not exist’, should read, if they can decipher it, Chaucers Canterbury Tales, where the their pilgrims, during their travels encountered the effects on people, cattle and crops, of the excessive heat which caused crops to fail and water supplies to dry up; or is this a tale made up by deniers.

By: bender

bender — Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:32:42 +0000

bump

By: David Stockwell

David Stockwell — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:41:36 +0000

#24. The argument for GHG caused AGW is often made that there can be no other explanation for observed warming. But logically they must have evaluated and excluded all alternatives to support this argument. Here they state:

changes in the Sun’s output of ultraviolet light, and of magnetized plasmas, cannot be ruled out.

Pity I can’t access the article.

By: bender

bender — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:36:04 +0000

Hockey stick spotted.

See Fig 5 of:

P. Foukal, C. Froehlich, H. Spruit and T. M. L. Wigley
Variations in solar luminosity and their effect on the Earth’s climate
Nature 443, 161-166(14 September 2006)

here

By: fFreddy

fFreddy — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:22:45 +0000

Re #22
At last, a reverse hockey stick ! Thanks for the laugh

By: L Nettles

L Nettles — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:43:58 +0000

here is a hockey stick of sorts linked on the Chaos Manor site link

By: Tom Carter

Tom Carter — Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:09:01 +0000

Thank You Steve for your Integrity and Hard Work, and please keep it up!!!

A famous Scientist once said that good science provides us with more questions than answers about our universe.

Honest scientists welcome critical review and analysis of their work. “FACTS” drive the course of honest scientific research toward a conclusion. NOAA and IPCC seem to have selected conclusions and are looking for facts to support their conclusions.

Policies of the current crop of too many “Political Scientists” running climate research for NOAA the IPCC and many universitiy programs resemble the “Flat Earth” thinking in Europe about 400 to 1000 years ago when Galileo and Copernicus were persecuted for challenging the “Conventional Wisdom” which said that the universe revolved around the Earth. These and other brave and wise Scientists were persecuted for expressing their beliefs and thus challenging the Politically Correct Official Dogma-of-the-day.

You and others are the honest voices in the current discussions about whether or not humans have significant influence on climate change on this Earth.

Again, Thank You,

Tom Carter,
Los Alamos, New Mexico

By: welikerocks

welikerocks — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:24:54 +0000

#19 Dave, thanks.
Husband and I went to a dinner party this weekend. Two of the attendees had just come from seeing Gore’s movie; one was a middle school teacher. What a kafuffle of people and facts to keep straight when you are asked your opinion or asked to explain the whole picture. Sheesh.

By: Dave Dardinger

Dave Dardinger — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 04:31:37 +0000

Strictly speaking that last quote is misattributed. It wasn’t Steve who was told that. I think it was Jones who said that to Warrick Hughes. But it was later verified that that’s what was said.

By: welikerocks

welikerocks — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:00:26 +0000

And this:

“Second, the flaws in Mann’s work were not caught by climate scientists, but rather by outsiders-in this case, an economist and a mathematician. They had to go to great lengths to obtain data from Mann’s team, which obstructed them at every turn. When the Canadians sought help from the NSF, they were told that Mann was under no obligation to provide his data to other researchers for independent verification.
Third, this kind of stonewalling is not unique. The Canadians are now attempting to replicate other climate studies and are getting the same runaround from other researchers. One prominent scientist told them: “Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it.”