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	<title>Comments on: Thompson: &quot;Remarkably Similar&quot;</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: John Hekman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hekman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The weather balloon data is only judged to be &quot;global&quot; since 1958 or later.  Yet there were over 100 sites launching weather balloons back to almost 1940.  Does anyone know where the balloon data going back to 1940 can be found?

thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The weather balloon data is only judged to be &#8220;global&#8221; since 1958 or later.  Yet there were over 100 sites launching weather balloons back to almost 1940.  Does anyone know where the balloon data going back to 1940 can be found?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: ET SidViscous</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55411</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John thanks for fixing the link. But I didn&#039;t really say fate fate did I?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John thanks for fixing the link. But I didn&#8217;t really say fate fate did I?</p>
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		<title>By: ET SidViscous</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ET SidViscous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the up to fate fate says? &lt;a href=&quot;http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the up to fate fate says? <a href="http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/tltglhmam_5.2" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 06:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #71:  If you had followed the science on this, it would have been instantly obvious to you that the graphic on the main page is very out of date.  Equally obviously the links are to pages that are up to date.  My advice to Dave B applies to you as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #71:  If you had followed the science on this, it would have been instantly obvious to you that the graphic on the main page is very out of date.  Equally obviously the links are to pages that are up to date.  My advice to Dave B applies to you as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If that graphic has been recently updated, then has not bothered to read the data in several years.  The troposphere is NOT cooling.

In fact, if you click on his &quot;lower troposphere&#039; link, you get the graph I just posted, which is clearly NOT showing &quot;slight cooling,&quot;  no matter what words he puts in his image.  Apparenlty he hasnt even looked at the supporting data he links to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that graphic has been recently updated, then has not bothered to read the data in several years.  The troposphere is NOT cooling.</p>
<p>In fact, if you click on his &#8220;lower troposphere&#8217; link, you get the graph I just posted, which is clearly NOT showing &#8220;slight cooling,&#8221;  no matter what words he puts in his image.  Apparenlty he hasnt even looked at the supporting data he links to.</p>
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		<title>By: MrPete</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrPete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 02:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #68,#70 -- A little more humility is called for, particularly when standing on interpretation of (web) data you don&#039;t understand.

Clearly, the 7/31/97 date is the date the **page text** was last updated.

Didn&#039;t you at least wonder how a graphic could show June 2006 data in a page not updated since 1997?

There&#039;s a simple answer: the graphics are updated frequently; the text need not be.

In FireFox you can view just the image, then do Tools-&gt;Page Info to get the last update timestamp on the graphic.

Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:49:44 AM

Sounds appropriate for a graphic giving data through June 2006, don&#039;t you think?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #68,#70 &#8212; A little more humility is called for, particularly when standing on interpretation of (web) data you don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>Clearly, the 7/31/97 date is the date the **page text** was last updated.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you at least wonder how a graphic could show June 2006 data in a page not updated since 1997?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a simple answer: the graphics are updated frequently; the text need not be.</p>
<p>In FireFox you can view just the image, then do Tools-&gt;Page Info to get the last update timestamp on the graphic.</p>
<p>Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:49:44 AM</p>
<p>Sounds appropriate for a graphic giving data through June 2006, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 62:
&quot;Last Updated: July 31, 1997&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 62:<br />
&#8220;Last Updated: July 31, 1997&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What, the climate doesnt respond monotonically to single effects?

Who knew?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, the climate doesnt respond monotonically to single effects?</p>
<p>Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bloom</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bloom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #62:  Check the date and source material.  Don&#039;t embarrass yourself like this next time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #62:  Check the date and source material.  Don&#8217;t embarrass yourself like this next time.</p>
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		<title>By: welikerocks</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/07/06/thompson-remarkably-similar/#comment-55403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[welikerocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 23:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In regards to the ocean and corals.  I wasn&#039;t home all day BTW.

Bloom says : &quot;If I liked rocks I would be appropriately frightened&quot;

Lee says : so you argument against possible damaging future conseqences of present actions is that it is a waste of energy to worry about it?

This is what I actually said:  &quot;It&#039;s a waste of energy to view the future on any level without hope or a positive outlook&quot;

The two of you mentioned both fear and worry.
Re-read what I said again.

As for an EPA examples of scare tactics:
How about scaring city/government officials/and citizens on behalf of the State working with Unified School District, to &quot;clean-up&quot; soils that have been covered by blacktops, parking lots and asphalt school yards for twenty years or more.  All because substances in very low low low non-worrisome levels are detected in the ground.  Amounts so small (unless you eat dirt for lunch every day) with scarey sounding names like arsenic; which occurs naturally in nature; are blown up to sound life threatening and a health risk.  Costing tax payers ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars on just one site.


How about spending huge amounts of money for UXO clean-up  (left over from WWII training) in the California deserts were no human hardly ever goes, and it is not a threat to any wild life, over let say other important environmental issues?  Funding for it comes every year, and grumbles about the military, scary weapons, chemicals etc run commen as well as the fear factor touch does.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, don&#039;t pick one up.    Yet, when a developer wants to, he or she can some how by-pass this one step and build housing developments and golf courses over ground zero of an impact range like in the coastal cities I know of with much more prestine living conditions...and somehow... all is well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the ocean and corals.  I wasn&#8217;t home all day BTW.</p>
<p>Bloom says : &#8220;If I liked rocks I would be appropriately frightened&#8221;</p>
<p>Lee says : so you argument against possible damaging future conseqences of present actions is that it is a waste of energy to worry about it?</p>
<p>This is what I actually said:  &#8220;It&#8217;s a waste of energy to view the future on any level without hope or a positive outlook&#8221;</p>
<p>The two of you mentioned both fear and worry.<br />
Re-read what I said again.</p>
<p>As for an EPA examples of scare tactics:<br />
How about scaring city/government officials/and citizens on behalf of the State working with Unified School District, to &#8220;clean-up&#8221; soils that have been covered by blacktops, parking lots and asphalt school yards for twenty years or more.  All because substances in very low low low non-worrisome levels are detected in the ground.  Amounts so small (unless you eat dirt for lunch every day) with scarey sounding names like arsenic; which occurs naturally in nature; are blown up to sound life threatening and a health risk.  Costing tax payers ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars on just one site.</p>
<p>How about spending huge amounts of money for UXO clean-up  (left over from WWII training) in the California deserts were no human hardly ever goes, and it is not a threat to any wild life, over let say other important environmental issues?  Funding for it comes every year, and grumbles about the military, scary weapons, chemicals etc run commen as well as the fear factor touch does.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, don&#8217;t pick one up.    Yet, when a developer wants to, he or she can some how by-pass this one step and build housing developments and golf courses over ground zero of an impact range like in the coastal cities I know of with much more prestine living conditions&#8230;and somehow&#8230; all is well.</p>
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