Comments on: My Prediction for dO18 at Bona Churchill http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/ by Steve McIntyre Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:32:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The Quelccaya Update « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-410578 Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:51:04 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-410578 [...] http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/ [...]

]]> By: Gleanings on Bona Churchill « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-333801 Wed, 16 May 2012 04:26:03 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-333801 [...] for Thompson’s viewpoint: otherwise we’d have heard about it. Here’s one such prediction: Here’s my prediction about dO18 levels at Bona Churchill.: 20th century dO18 levels will be more [...]

]]> By: Kaufman et al: Obstructed by Thompson and Jacoby « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-295481 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:34:05 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-295481 [...] by Thompson in 2002, press releases issued, AGU notice and then dead silence. A few years ago, I speculated that this dead silenced presaged “bad” drill results – “bad” in the [...]

]]> By: Hu McCulloch http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62977 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:36:27 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62977 Slevdi, #24, wrote,

I am not an academic so I don’t know how to get from this abstract to the real paper:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004AGUFMPP23C..05T

The abstract says the paper was published 3 years ago:

Title:
1500 Years of Annual Climate and Environmental Variability as Recorded in Bona-Churchill (Alaska) Ice Cores
Authors:
Thompson, L. G.; Mosley-Thompson, E. S.; Zagorodnov, V.; Davis, M. E.; Mashiotta, T. A.; Lin, P.

This looks like it’s just the abstract of an AGU presentation, not a published article. But in the 11/12/07 thread “Gleanings on Bona Churchill,” Steve turned up a graph of the data at least. No CWP :+(

]]> By: Slevdi http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62976 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:23:37 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62976 I am not an academic so I don’t know how to get from this abstract to the real paper:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2004AGUFMPP23C..05T

The abstract says the paper was published 3 years ago:

Title:
1500 Years of Annual Climate and Environmental Variability as Recorded in Bona-Churchill (Alaska) Ice Cores
Authors:
Thompson, L. G.; Mosley-Thompson, E. S.; Zagorodnov, V.; Davis, M. E.; Mashiotta, T. A.; Lin, P.
Affiliation:
AA(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; Department of Geological Sciences, The Ohio State University, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; thompson.3@osu.edu), AB(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; Department of Geography, The Ohio State University, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; thompson.4@osu.edu), AC(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; zagorodnov.1@osu.edu), AD(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; davis.3@osu.edu), AE(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; mashiotta.1@osu.edu), AF(Byrd Polar Research Center, The Ohio State University, 1090 Carmack Road, Columbus, OH 43210 United States ; lin.25@osu.edu)
Publication:
American Geophysical Union, Fall Meeting 2004, abstract #PP23C-05
Publication Date:
12/2004
Origin:
AGU
AGU Keywords:
9315 Arctic region, 3344 Paleoclimatology, 1827 Glaciology (1863), 1600 GLOBAL CHANGE (New category), 1620 Climate dynamics (3309)
Bibliographic Code:
2004AGUFMPP23C..05T

]]> By: welikerocks http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62975 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:33:15 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62975 #21-22 And I hope you let me say this..

Steve, most of us Americans were just glad the political news & commercials for the election would stop, and we could go back to normal. But no. Al would not go away. It dragged on for months. Every vote counts! Al would say, and on 20/20 he said it again, and the interviewer (Leslie Stall maybe?) said, in frustration ” Yes of course they do, and these votes have been counted 3 times sir!”
I am sure Al Gore is a nice man, but after awhile I thought he acted beneath the position he wanted to hold.

President Bush was inaugurated that January but the media didn’t stop-, over and over for months -everyone is mad and hating the President for “stealing the election”. All news all the time. It continued constantly. 9/11 happened- that changes the headlines of couse, but the hate was still there and stewing and popped up all over the place, and it continues.

(I have several friends , of various political parties, and they voted for Bush both times for that very reason, the hate coming from the other side was too incredible to believe, in your face, everywhere and they didn’t want to be a part of it -example : much like that guy who posted here with CC initials)

The greatest threat to mankind IS the dis-information coming from the media
It creates the hate and the drama, and is taking over the sciences too as we speak.

]]> By: Dave Dardinger http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62974 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:24:23 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62974 re: #21

I also thought that he was shabbily treated in Bush v Gore.

That’s because you weren’t and probably still aren’t aware of all the things which went on. The fact is Gore never had a chance of prevailing given the Republican legislature in Florida and the the Republican majorities in the US Congress but still hoped against hope something would happen, just as he buys the hockey stick unthinkingly. The only really bad players in the 2000 election were the networks for declaring Gore the winner in Florida even before a number of polling places in the panhandle had closed, and the Florida Supreme Court for riding roughshod over the Florida constitution.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62973 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:19:34 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62973 I finally broke down and bought An Inconvenient Truth. In a rare bit of insight, my local bookstore did not classify it in the “Science” section. The clerk foraged around – at first, he thought that it was in the Soociology section – which would have been an apt classification. However, it wasn’t there. He finally located it in the History section. And indeed there are some nice vignettes of Al Gore’s life interspersed through the book. Gore is almost exactly the same age as me and the vignettes and pictures of the 1950s and 1970s have much resonance for me. From his bio, Gore seems like a very decent man with a fine family. I also thought that he was shabbily treated in Bush v Gore.

I’ll post some things about the book at length some time. On page 60-61 is a beautiful photograph of the Bona Churchill glacier taken by Lonnie Thompson’s team in 2002. MAybe Gore can get Thompson to release the dO18 values from Bona-Churchill.

]]> By: bender http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62972 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:51:45 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62972 Re #19
Yes, but not as long as those new, unpublished bristlecone pine chronologies.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2006/09/04/my-prediction-for-do18-at-bona-churchill/#comment-62971 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:33:33 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=806#comment-62971 Just noticed this progress report from around Oct 2003:

The analyses of the Bona-Churchill ice cores are now underway in the laboratories at OSU’s BPRC. The primary measurements that are being made continuously along the length of all cores include the concentration and size distribution of insoluble microparticles (dust), àŽⲱ8O, àŽⳄ, and concentrations of the major anion and cation species. The upper sections of the cores have been analyzed for total Beta radioactivity. The annual accumulation rate has averaged ~1100 mm of water equivalent over the recent past. As of October 2003 we have analyzed 5600 àŽⲱ8O, àŽⳄ, dust and chemistry samples representing 320 meters of the 460-meter deep ice core. The dust and calcium concentrations show distinct annual variations and the preliminary results suggest that the annually resolved record will cover more than 2500 years. This bodes well for the recovery of a very high-resolution record of past climatic and environmental variability from these cores.

It sure is taking a long time.

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