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	<title>Comments on: Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Thompson Gets New NSF Grant &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-331642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thompson Gets New NSF Grant &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] definitive archived versions of his measurements. See, for example, IPCC and the Dunde Variations, Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya, Gleanings on Bona Churchill, and Mann on Irreproducible Results in Thompson (PNAS [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] definitive archived versions of his measurements. See, for example, IPCC and the Dunde Variations, Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya, Gleanings on Bona Churchill, and Mann on Irreproducible Results in Thompson (PNAS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to Dr. Subra Suresh &#124; Watts Up With That?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-248970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[An Open Letter to Dr. Subra Suresh &#124; Watts Up With That?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Himalayan ice core information for Dasupo, Dunde, and Gulaya, is detailed (inter alia) here, here, here, here, here, here, and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Himalayan ice core information for Dasupo, Dunde, and Gulaya, is detailed (inter alia) here, here, here, here, here, here, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calibrating Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Z-Mometer &#171; Climate Audit [Welcome to our new home!]</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-209228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calibrating Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Z-Mometer &#171; Climate Audit [Welcome to our new home!]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 03:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Thompson ice core data, see also &#8220;Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya&#8221; (CA 12/3/06), &#8220;Dunde: Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?&#8221; (CA 4/12/07), [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Thompson ice core data, see also &#8220;Juckes, Yang, Thompson and PNAS: Guliya&#8221; (CA 12/3/06), &#8220;Dunde: Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?&#8221; (CA 4/12/07), [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter D. Tillman</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter D. Tillman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, Paul [F.] Dennis is at the  University of East Anglia, School of Environmental Sciences, Norwich, United Kingdom -- unless Google has misled me ;-)

Cheers -- Pete Tillman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, Paul [F.] Dennis is at the  University of East Anglia, School of Environmental Sciences, Norwich, United Kingdom &#8212; unless Google has misled me <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; Pete Tillman</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wayne Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve:  Last time I checked the NGRIP people were not sharing their new Greenland chemistry data either.  Please tell me if that&#039;s changed.  I have other information to add relative to this thread but would much prefer you contact me offline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:  Last time I checked the NGRIP people were not sharing their new Greenland chemistry data either.  Please tell me if that&#8217;s changed.  I have other information to add relative to this thread but would much prefer you contact me offline.</p>
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		<title>By: Takeuchi</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Takeuchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willis, you are so kind to post the data. I have see another paper by Thompson.
Thompson, L.G., T. Yao, M.E. Davis, E. Mosley-Thompson, P.N. Lin, T.A. Mashiotta, V.N. Mikhalenko and V.S. Zagordonov. 2006. Holocene climate variability archived in the Puruogangri ice cape from the central Tibetan Plateau. Annals of Glaciology, 43, 61-69.

In this paper, Fig. 8 exhibits O-18 variations of different Tibetan ice cores. Would you digitalize them? It is very interesting to discuss sth of all the curves.
Thank you in advance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis, you are so kind to post the data. I have see another paper by Thompson.<br />
Thompson, L.G., T. Yao, M.E. Davis, E. Mosley-Thompson, P.N. Lin, T.A. Mashiotta, V.N. Mikhalenko and V.S. Zagordonov. 2006. Holocene climate variability archived in the Puruogangri ice cape from the central Tibetan Plateau. Annals of Glaciology, 43, 61-69.</p>
<p>In this paper, Fig. 8 exhibits O-18 variations of different Tibetan ice cores. Would you digitalize them? It is very interesting to discuss sth of all the curves.<br />
Thank you in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: TAC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TAC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Willis, thanks for posting the data.  The correlation between dO18 and HadCRUT is -0.1, not significant. Is that a surprise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willis, thanks for posting the data.  The correlation between dO18 and HadCRUT is -0.1, not significant. Is that a surprise?</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Eschenbach</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve digitized the Guliya &#039;Ë†&#039;€šO18 values and placed them &lt;a href=&quot;http://homepage.mac.com/williseschenbach/.Public/guliya.xls&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; The file also contains the local temperature values.

Also, here&#039;s a graph of the &#039;Ë†&#039;€šO18 values vs. the local temperature.



As you can see, the local temp has dropped over the period. However, Yang says that the signal is not from the local area, but represents the temperature of the ocean where the water is coming from. I haven&#039;t checked that yet.

w.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve digitized the Guliya &#8216;Ë†&#8217;€šO18 values and placed them <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/williseschenbach/.Public/guliya.xls" rel="nofollow">here.</a> The file also contains the local temperature values.</p>
<p>Also, here&#8217;s a graph of the &#8216;Ë†&#8217;€šO18 values vs. the local temperature.</p>
<p>As you can see, the local temp has dropped over the period. However, Yang says that the signal is not from the local area, but represents the temperature of the ocean where the water is coming from. I haven&#8217;t checked that yet.</p>
<p>w.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dennis</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dennis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve I have sent you an email and attachments to your Yahoo address!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve I have sent you an email and attachments to your Yahoo address!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dennis</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/03/juckes-yang-thompson-and-pnas-guliya/#comment-72015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dennis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#50 Steve, I&#039;ll try to post the graphs and data file tonight. Believe it or not today I am interviewing for a fellowship in Isotopes and climate change studies in my lab!

If I have trouble posting the graphs I&#039;ll email a copy of the Excel file to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#50 Steve, I&#8217;ll try to post the graphs and data file tonight. Believe it or not today I am interviewing for a fellowship in Isotopes and climate change studies in my lab!</p>
<p>If I have trouble posting the graphs I&#8217;ll email a copy of the Excel file to you.</p>
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