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		<title>By: The Trouet Ocean Proxies &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-241183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Trouet Ocean Proxies &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] series showing a warm Warm Pool MWP (discussed previously at CA on a number of occasions &#8211; here and here ) with related data used in Newton et al. Data is available online, but I haven&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] series showing a warm Warm Pool MWP (discussed previously at CA on a number of occasions &#8211; here and here ) with related data used in Newton et al. Data is available online, but I haven&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what you are looking for:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Dr. David Deming (University of Oklahoma)
“ Around 1996, I became aware of how corrupt and
ideologically driven current climate research can be.
A major researcher working in the area of climate
change confided in me that the factual record
needed to be altered so that people would become
alarmed over global warming. He said, &quot;We have to
get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know if this statement was ever actually made, but Deming is th origin of the claim that someone said it. I&#039;d buy it, personally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what you are looking for:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr. David Deming (University of Oklahoma)<br />
“ Around 1996, I became aware of how corrupt and<br />
ideologically driven current climate research can be.<br />
A major researcher working in the area of climate<br />
change confided in me that the factual record<br />
needed to be altered so that people would become<br />
alarmed over global warming. He said, &#8220;We have to<br />
get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this statement was ever actually made, but Deming is th origin of the claim that someone said it. I&#8217;d buy it, personally.</p>
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		<title>By: pdm</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pdm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recall reading, i think in the wegman category, about an email from someone on the Team &quot;...trying to figure out how we can get rid of the MWP...&quot;.  Did or does such an email exist or did I read that somewhere else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading, i think in the wegman category, about an email from someone on the Team &#8220;&#8230;trying to figure out how we can get rid of the MWP&#8230;&#8221;.  Did or does such an email exist or did I read that somewhere else?</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a good one:

http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2007/09/is_global_warming_affecting_el.html#comments

Where this is heading is &quot;Weakest Walker Circulation in a millllllllyun yearrrrrrrrs!&quot;

I guess they never heard of PDO. Or want to pull a MWP manoever to make it go away .....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a good one:</p>
<p><a href="http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2007/09/is_global_warming_affecting_el.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://global-warming.accuweather.com/2007/09/is_global_warming_affecting_el.html#comments</a></p>
<p>Where this is heading is &#8220;Weakest Walker Circulation in a millllllllyun yearrrrrrrrs!&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess they never heard of PDO. Or want to pull a MWP manoever to make it go away &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, that should be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1063&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;More Unthreaded&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, that should be <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1063" rel="nofollow">More Unthreaded</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr D, Aside from the recent comments on specific topics, (top right), one can usually find general chat going on at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=984&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unthreaded&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr D, Aside from the recent comments on specific topics, (top right), one can usually find general chat going on at <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=984" rel="nofollow">Unthreaded</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Dardinger</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Dardinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. D,

Actually I think we regulars normally just look at the recent comments box on the top right.  Or we hit the Home spot at the top center and then just check to see if there are not new messages to look at If you want to really follow things closely you could write down the number of comments on each thread and check if it&#039;s changed when you come back.  Usually threads go pretty dormant after a couple of weeks.

Or you can subscribe to get the RSS feed and get the new comments automatically.  I haven&#039;t tried that so I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s useful or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. D,</p>
<p>Actually I think we regulars normally just look at the recent comments box on the top right.  Or we hit the Home spot at the top center and then just check to see if there are not new messages to look at If you want to really follow things closely you could write down the number of comments on each thread and check if it&#8217;s changed when you come back.  Usually threads go pretty dormant after a couple of weeks.</p>
<p>Or you can subscribe to get the RSS feed and get the new comments automatically.  I haven&#8217;t tried that so I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s useful or not.</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. D:  you can post your stuff to a free url site, like esnips.com and then link to it.  Most folks hang out at the sites of the most recent postings.  You must have got here thru a link of some sort.  Just use the main web address:  www.climateaudit.org.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. D:  you can post your stuff to a free url site, like esnips.com and then link to it.  Most folks hang out at the sites of the most recent postings.  You must have got here thru a link of some sort.  Just use the main web address:  <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr D</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi guys,

Thanks so much for all your help and encouragement. I&#039;m pleased to say I&#039;ve pretty much finished the adventure now. :) However I&#039;m afraid to say that I don&#039;t have a website so can&#039;t post a link. If any of you would like to see what I&#039;ve written please e-mail me bartholomew &quot;at&quot; dunelm.org.uk (I&#039;ve written &quot;at&quot; because I heard spammers get your e-mail easier if you type it properly).

Thanks again!

PS why are you guys still looking at posts on such an old thread - do you keep looking at all of them? Where does everyone hang out on this message board?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all your help and encouragement. I&#8217;m pleased to say I&#8217;ve pretty much finished the adventure now. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  However I&#8217;m afraid to say that I don&#8217;t have a website so can&#8217;t post a link. If any of you would like to see what I&#8217;ve written please e-mail me bartholomew &#8220;at&#8221; dunelm.org.uk (I&#8217;ve written &#8220;at&#8221; because I heard spammers get your e-mail easier if you type it properly).</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>PS why are you guys still looking at posts on such an old thread &#8211; do you keep looking at all of them? Where does everyone hang out on this message board?</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2006/12/27/the-mwp-in-the-warm-pool/#comment-73472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. D:  I think your method of teaching this subject is great.  I wish more teachers would teach &quot;both sides&quot; of issues.  It teaches the students many things, especially how to think independently.  I think Nicholas did a good job explaining the tree proxy issue.  As I mentioned, I think there are some really good proxies.  Wander around this site, and you will find a lot of very interesting ones, with great comments by Steve M and others.  I personally like proxy studies involving sediment cores, stalactites, carbon 14 in tree rings (for solar influences), tree-line studies, some ice cores.  One really good way to look at things like the Medieval Warming Period (and perhaps even the Roman Warm Period) is to simply look at the written history.  One of the things that bugs me about some of these scientists is that their study results are contrary to actual recorded events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. D:  I think your method of teaching this subject is great.  I wish more teachers would teach &#8220;both sides&#8221; of issues.  It teaches the students many things, especially how to think independently.  I think Nicholas did a good job explaining the tree proxy issue.  As I mentioned, I think there are some really good proxies.  Wander around this site, and you will find a lot of very interesting ones, with great comments by Steve M and others.  I personally like proxy studies involving sediment cores, stalactites, carbon 14 in tree rings (for solar influences), tree-line studies, some ice cores.  One really good way to look at things like the Medieval Warming Period (and perhaps even the Roman Warm Period) is to simply look at the written history.  One of the things that bugs me about some of these scientists is that their study results are contrary to actual recorded events.</p>
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