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	<title>Comments on: Ellesmere Island Ice Shelves</title>
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		<title>By: Arctic Driftwood Re-Visited &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-300318</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arctic Driftwood Re-Visited &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 19:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] form in Dyke et al (1997), which was discussed at length in a Climate Audit post in 2007 here and here. Funder et al cite Dyke et al 1997 on multiple occasions and use its information in their analysis, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] form in Dyke et al (1997), which was discussed at length in a Climate Audit post in 2007 here and here. Funder et al cite Dyke et al 1997 on multiple occasions and use its information in their analysis, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ward Hunt Island: Unprecedented since 2005 &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-300074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ward Hunt Island: Unprecedented since 2005 &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ellesmere Island Ice Shelves Ellesmere Island Driftwood  Ayles Ice Shelf  Ward Hunt Ice Shelf Stratigraphy Ice Island T-3 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74394</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellesmere island&#039;s ice shelf is the huges thing on Earth!!! I actualy went there and it was huge!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellesmere island&#8217;s ice shelf is the huges thing on Earth!!! I actualy went there and it was huge!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74393</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellesmere island ice shelf has 10,000 people fooled!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellesmere island ice shelf has 10,000 people fooled!!</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74392</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#51/52 That seems to be a relevant observation. I wonder how that squares up with the primary literature. I won&#039;t comment just yet about the role of time lagged responses. Too much confusion over OHC. I&#039;m too likely to get myself in trouble making unsupportable/incorrect statements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51/52 That seems to be a relevant observation. I wonder how that squares up with the primary literature. I won&#8217;t comment just yet about the role of time lagged responses. Too much confusion over OHC. I&#8217;m too likely to get myself in trouble making unsupportable/incorrect statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-299236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bender (#50)&lt;/a&gt;
I don&#039;t know the answer. But you can look up Bond Events (spam filter eats the links). In any case, I think the data and the age of the ice shelves collapsing suggests that the claims of an artic ice tipping point are likely over stated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-299236" rel="nofollow">bender (#50)</a><br />
I don&#8217;t know the answer. But you can look up Bond Events (spam filter eats the links). In any case, I think the data and the age of the ice shelves collapsing suggests that the claims of an artic ice tipping point are likely over stated.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-299236&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bender (#50)&lt;/a&gt;
It it was a rhetorical question. I can only guess. But the data is telling me that breakups of the artic ice cap have occurred naturally in the recent past so I don&#039;t find the &#039;tipping point&#039; argument to be very compelling. The quasi periodic nature has been noted by others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-299236" rel="nofollow">bender (#50)</a><br />
It it was a rhetorical question. I can only guess. But the data is telling me that breakups of the artic ice cap have occurred naturally in the recent past so I don&#8217;t find the &#8216;tipping point&#8217; argument to be very compelling. The quasi periodic nature has been noted by others.</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Raven, you are correct that that comment #46 was mistaken by couple thousand years. Do you want me to guess? Do you know the answer? If it&#039;s Greenland is it geothermal related? I think I know where you&#039;re going with this, and that&#039;s cool with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven, you are correct that that comment #46 was mistaken by couple thousand years. Do you want me to guess? Do you know the answer? If it&#8217;s Greenland is it geothermal related? I think I know where you&#8217;re going with this, and that&#8217;s cool with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Wingo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Wingo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Folks

I hope that this is not too far off topic but here goes.  There is precious little data around from the early NASA remote sensing spacecraft (Nimbus)  I am working on a project to digitize Lunar Orbiter Images and have recently found out that the early Nimbus data was archived on the same type of machines (Ampex FR-900 series).  Does anyone know if this data still exists?  If it does, we can digitize it now with the working machines that we have just brought back into service.  This would help take polar data back into the 1960&#039;s.  If anyone knows anything about this please contact me at:

wingod at Earthlink dot net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks</p>
<p>I hope that this is not too far off topic but here goes.  There is precious little data around from the early NASA remote sensing spacecraft (Nimbus)  I am working on a project to digitize Lunar Orbiter Images and have recently found out that the early Nimbus data was archived on the same type of machines (Ampex FR-900 series).  Does anyone know if this data still exists?  If it does, we can digitize it now with the working machines that we have just brought back into service.  This would help take polar data back into the 1960&#8242;s.  If anyone knows anything about this please contact me at:</p>
<p>wingod at Earthlink dot net</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/04/ellesmere-island-ice-shelves/#comment-74387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-253725&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bender (#46)&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Holocene thermal optimum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually, no. That was more that 5000 years ago. Here is a temperature plot from the ice cores:
(source http://mclean.ch/climate/Eye_opening.htm)
Any ideas on what caused those temperature spikes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-253725" rel="nofollow">bender (#46)</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>The Holocene thermal optimum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, no. That was more that 5000 years ago. Here is a temperature plot from the ice cores:<br />
(source <a href="http://mclean.ch/climate/Eye_opening.htm" rel="nofollow">http://mclean.ch/climate/Eye_opening.htm</a>)<br />
Any ideas on what caused those temperature spikes?</p>
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