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	<title>Comments on: Ice Island T-3</title>
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		<title>By: Ward Hunt Island: Unprecedented since 2005 &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-300078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ward Hunt Island: Unprecedented since 2005 &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Ellesmere Island Ice Shelves Ellesmere Island Driftwood  Ayles Ice Shelf  Ward Hunt Ice Shelf Stratigraphy Ice Island T-3  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Klimathotet&#8221; och verkligheten &#171; Norah4you&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74935</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Klimathotet&#8221; och verkligheten &#171; Norah4you&#8217;s Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Bering Sea, the ice edge continues its rapid advance and is expected to reach the Pribiloffs this week. There are SSTs of -1 deg C, a bit south of the ice edge. Several weeks to go prior to the typical annual maximum time frame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Bering Sea, the ice edge continues its rapid advance and is expected to reach the Pribiloffs this week. There are SSTs of -1 deg C, a bit south of the ice edge. Several weeks to go prior to the typical annual maximum time frame.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve S #116

Compare and contrast (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_model/images/full/National/nsm_depth/200801/nsm_depth_2008012205_National.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;).

Note in particular the patch of snow cover extending almost to the gulf coast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve S #116</p>
<p>Compare and contrast (<a href="http://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/snow_model/images/full/National/nsm_depth/200801/nsm_depth_2008012205_National.jpg" rel="nofollow">link</a>).</p>
<p>Note in particular the patch of snow cover extending almost to the gulf coast.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lang</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Lang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is interesting that the Southern hemisphere reached a record sea ice extent anomaly in the middle of December 2007.  2 million sq. kms above normal.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg

The global sea ice extent, north and south combined, went over 1 million sq. kms above normal as well.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg

How can all this ice be melting at a record rate when the freezing rate is above normal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that the Southern hemisphere reached a record sea ice extent anomaly in the middle of December 2007.  2 million sq. kms above normal.</p>
<p><a href="http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.anom.south.jpg</a></p>
<p>The global sea ice extent, north and south combined, went over 1 million sq. kms above normal as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg</a></p>
<p>How can all this ice be melting at a record rate when the freezing rate is above normal?</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can assert, based on personal observations made today, of snow cover in my area, that the below methodology misses many regional sized areas of snow cover:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.4.jpg

There are a number of areas, several square Km in size, near the West Coast, which are not shown. Collectively they would add up to a handsome area.  More systemic weaknesses with passive microwave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can assert, based on personal observations made today, of snow cover in my area, that the below methodology misses many regional sized areas of snow cover:</p>
<p><a href="http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.4.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.4.jpg</a></p>
<p>There are a number of areas, several square Km in size, near the West Coast, which are not shown. Collectively they would add up to a handsome area.  More systemic weaknesses with passive microwave.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 114. anomaly method solves all problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 114. anomaly method solves all problems.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The algorithm did it&quot;...

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.jpg

This is a brilliant illustration of how the algorithm artificially lowers the areal extent estimate. Look at the areas where sea ice fills in the Arctic Ocean up to the shoreline (at this point in the season, essentially, the entire shoreline). See the jagged gap between the shore and the depicted ice edge? That is done by the algorithm. It is because passive microwaver remote sensing cannot really tell the difference between the (snow covered) sea ice and the (snow covered) land. Therefore, in order to avoid the program &quot;blowing up&quot; there is a hack to insert an artificial gap. The gap is created by layering the known shoreline data in, and arbitrarily inserting a crack in the ice that has a set width. In the past, some have wondered how a filled in Arctic can show less than 100% coverage. This is the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The algorithm did it&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/arctic.jpg</a></p>
<p>This is a brilliant illustration of how the algorithm artificially lowers the areal extent estimate. Look at the areas where sea ice fills in the Arctic Ocean up to the shoreline (at this point in the season, essentially, the entire shoreline). See the jagged gap between the shore and the depicted ice edge? That is done by the algorithm. It is because passive microwaver remote sensing cannot really tell the difference between the (snow covered) sea ice and the (snow covered) land. Therefore, in order to avoid the program &#8220;blowing up&#8221; there is a hack to insert an artificial gap. The gap is created by layering the known shoreline data in, and arbitrarily inserting a crack in the ice that has a set width. In the past, some have wondered how a filled in Arctic can show less than 100% coverage. This is the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some more details have been added:

...JANUARY 2008 YEAR GROUP ANALYSIS...

THE YEAR GROUP FOR THE FIRST OF JANUARY IS 1999.

THE ICE IN THE BERING AND CHUKCHI SEAS AT THE START OF JANUARY 2008
HAS REACHED A POINT WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL PAST YEARS WITH SIMILAR
ICE FOOT PRINTS. THERE IS...HOWEVER...A DIFFERENCE IN ICE THICKNESS
WITH THE ICE IN THE WESTERN BERING AND NEAR RUSSIA BEING THINNER THIS
YEAR. I USED THE YEARS 1999 AND 1996 FOR COMPARISON TO 2008 WITH 1999
BEING THE BEST MATCH WHEN METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS ARE COMPARED
ALONG WITH THE BASIC ICE POSITION.


BERING SEA 2008 WINTER ICE OUTLOOK.

EVENT                    1999        1996        2008 OUTLOOK

ICE TO ST MATTHEW        11 JAN      10 JAN        6 JAN

ICE TO ST PAUL           22 MAR       NO         BRIEF PERIODS MID
                                                 FEB THRU MID MARCH

SOUTHERN EXTENT     56.7N/167.6W   58.2N/168.5W    56.5N TO 57N
WEST OF 165W           26 MAR        25 MAR      BETWEEN 166W TO 168W
                                                    MID MARCH

EXTENT ALONG BERING   FALSE PASS    PORT HEIDEN   FALSE PASS
SIDE OF AK PENINSULA

COOK INLET 2008 WINTER ICE OUTLOOK.

1996 WAS NOT USED IN THE COMPARISON FOR COOK INLET.

EVENT                                 1999          2008 OUTLOOK

GREATER THAN 50 PERCENT COVERAGE     20 JAN          18 JAN
PERCENT COVERAGE SOUTH OF KALGIN

LOWER COOK INLET LESS THAN          7 APRIL        4 APRIL
30 PERCENT COVERAGE...RETREAT

LOWER COOK INLET OPEN WATER        11 APRIL        9 APRIL

UPPER COOK INLET LESS THAN         12 APRIL        10 APRIL
30 PERCENT COVERAGE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more details have been added:</p>
<p>&#8230;JANUARY 2008 YEAR GROUP ANALYSIS&#8230;</p>
<p>THE YEAR GROUP FOR THE FIRST OF JANUARY IS 1999.</p>
<p>THE ICE IN THE BERING AND CHUKCHI SEAS AT THE START OF JANUARY 2008<br />
HAS REACHED A POINT WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL PAST YEARS WITH SIMILAR<br />
ICE FOOT PRINTS. THERE IS&#8230;HOWEVER&#8230;A DIFFERENCE IN ICE THICKNESS<br />
WITH THE ICE IN THE WESTERN BERING AND NEAR RUSSIA BEING THINNER THIS<br />
YEAR. I USED THE YEARS 1999 AND 1996 FOR COMPARISON TO 2008 WITH 1999<br />
BEING THE BEST MATCH WHEN METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS ARE COMPARED<br />
ALONG WITH THE BASIC ICE POSITION.</p>
<p>BERING SEA 2008 WINTER ICE OUTLOOK.</p>
<p>EVENT                    1999        1996        2008 OUTLOOK</p>
<p>ICE TO ST MATTHEW        11 JAN      10 JAN        6 JAN</p>
<p>ICE TO ST PAUL           22 MAR       NO         BRIEF PERIODS MID<br />
                                                 FEB THRU MID MARCH</p>
<p>SOUTHERN EXTENT     56.7N/167.6W   58.2N/168.5W    56.5N TO 57N<br />
WEST OF 165W           26 MAR        25 MAR      BETWEEN 166W TO 168W<br />
                                                    MID MARCH</p>
<p>EXTENT ALONG BERING   FALSE PASS    PORT HEIDEN   FALSE PASS<br />
SIDE OF AK PENINSULA</p>
<p>COOK INLET 2008 WINTER ICE OUTLOOK.</p>
<p>1996 WAS NOT USED IN THE COMPARISON FOR COOK INLET.</p>
<p>EVENT                                 1999          2008 OUTLOOK</p>
<p>GREATER THAN 50 PERCENT COVERAGE     20 JAN          18 JAN<br />
PERCENT COVERAGE SOUTH OF KALGIN</p>
<p>LOWER COOK INLET LESS THAN          7 APRIL        4 APRIL<br />
30 PERCENT COVERAGE&#8230;RETREAT</p>
<p>LOWER COOK INLET OPEN WATER        11 APRIL        9 APRIL</p>
<p>UPPER COOK INLET LESS THAN         12 APRIL        10 APRIL<br />
30 PERCENT COVERAGE</p>
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		<title>By: SteveSadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/10/ice-island-t-3/#comment-74927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveSadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a difference a month makes:

...JANUARY 2008 YEAR GROUP ANALYSIS...

THE YEAR GROUP FOR THE FIRST OF JANUARY IS 1999. THE WINTER OUTLOOK
FOR THE BERING SEA AND COOK INLET WILL BE AMENDED TO THIS PRODUCT
TUESDAY MORNING.

KCOLE JANUARY 2008

Globally, sea ice shall soon be at a record high, versus the same calendar points of previous years. The global anomaly is positive and in an unnnnnnnnprecedented steep rise. Well, at least, unnnnnnprecedented in 29 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a difference a month makes:</p>
<p>&#8230;JANUARY 2008 YEAR GROUP ANALYSIS&#8230;</p>
<p>THE YEAR GROUP FOR THE FIRST OF JANUARY IS 1999. THE WINTER OUTLOOK<br />
FOR THE BERING SEA AND COOK INLET WILL BE AMENDED TO THIS PRODUCT<br />
TUESDAY MORNING.</p>
<p>KCOLE JANUARY 2008</p>
<p>Globally, sea ice shall soon be at a record high, versus the same calendar points of previous years. The global anomaly is positive and in an unnnnnnnnprecedented steep rise. Well, at least, unnnnnnprecedented in 29 years.</p>
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