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	<title>Comments on: Bob K&#039;s Hurricane Image</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Brooks Hurd</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks Hurd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob K, those are great graphics.

I wonder what Kerry Emanuel will have to say about these graphs.

I also wonder how we can explain the significance of these graphs to Al Gore. His film made a clear point of how we have had a large increase in TCs recently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob K, those are great graphics.</p>
<p>I wonder what Kerry Emanuel will have to say about these graphs.</p>
<p>I also wonder how we can explain the significance of these graphs to Al Gore. His film made a clear point of how we have had a large increase in TCs recently.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great plots, Bob K!

There&#039;s an old American TV sitcom named &quot;I Love Lucy&quot;. Sometimes Lucy had some &quot; &#039;splainin to do&quot;. I think that anyone choosing to use the historical storm count has some &#039;splainin to do about the pattern changes.

And if they do, they need to wary of Occam and his razor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great plots, Bob K!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old American TV sitcom named &#8220;I Love Lucy&#8221;. Sometimes Lucy had some &#8221; &#8216;splainin to do&#8221;. I think that anyone choosing to use the historical storm count has some &#8216;splainin to do about the pattern changes.</p>
<p>And if they do, they need to wary of Occam and his razor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74967</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks fellas. I guess my brain hasn&#039;t totally ossified yet.;)

I just extracted initial storm readings and final readings. So here are some figures to contemplate. With so many storms in the 1st 50 years not being detected until reaching hurricane strength, it seems more than likely that many storms went unrecorded.

1851 to 1900 storms = 377
30=8, 35=102, 40=81, 50=63, 55=1, 60=22, 70=54, 80=14, 85=1, 90=28, 100=1, 110=2
Mean initial speed = 51
most common = 35
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20=2, 25=19, 30=42, 35=48, 40=69, 45=7, 50=61, 55=1, 60=42, 65=4, 70=55, 80=12, 90=14, 110=1
Mean final speed = 49
most common = 40
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1901 to 1950 storms = 391
20=1, 25=3, 30=41, 35=233, 40=37, 45=8, 50=20, 55=4, 60=39, 65=5
Mean initial speed = 39
most common = 35
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15=24, 20=40, 25=82, 30=109, 35=58, 40=23, 45=16, 50=12, 55=7, 60=8, 65=4, 70=4, 75=1, 80=2, 85=1
Mean final speed = 32
most common = 30
___________
1951 to 2000 storms = 499
10=2, 15=6, 20=30, 25=255, 30=151, 35=29, 40=7, 45=6, 50=10, 60=3
Mean initial speed = 28
most common = 25
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10=5, 15=18, 20=53, 25=111, 27=1, 30=81, 35=59, 40=38, 45=47, 50=25, 55=14, 60=26, 65=10, 70=7, 75=2, 80=2
Mean final speed = 35
most common 25]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks fellas. I guess my brain hasn&#8217;t totally ossified yet.;)</p>
<p>I just extracted initial storm readings and final readings. So here are some figures to contemplate. With so many storms in the 1st 50 years not being detected until reaching hurricane strength, it seems more than likely that many storms went unrecorded.</p>
<p>1851 to 1900 storms = 377<br />
30=8, 35=102, 40=81, 50=63, 55=1, 60=22, 70=54, 80=14, 85=1, 90=28, 100=1, 110=2<br />
Mean initial speed = 51<br />
most common = 35<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
20=2, 25=19, 30=42, 35=48, 40=69, 45=7, 50=61, 55=1, 60=42, 65=4, 70=55, 80=12, 90=14, 110=1<br />
Mean final speed = 49<br />
most common = 40<br />
___________<br />
1901 to 1950 storms = 391<br />
20=1, 25=3, 30=41, 35=233, 40=37, 45=8, 50=20, 55=4, 60=39, 65=5<br />
Mean initial speed = 39<br />
most common = 35<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
15=24, 20=40, 25=82, 30=109, 35=58, 40=23, 45=16, 50=12, 55=7, 60=8, 65=4, 70=4, 75=1, 80=2, 85=1<br />
Mean final speed = 32<br />
most common = 30<br />
___________<br />
1951 to 2000 storms = 499<br />
10=2, 15=6, 20=30, 25=255, 30=151, 35=29, 40=7, 45=6, 50=10, 60=3<br />
Mean initial speed = 28<br />
most common = 25<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
10=5, 15=18, 20=53, 25=111, 27=1, 30=81, 35=59, 40=38, 45=47, 50=25, 55=14, 60=26, 65=10, 70=7, 75=2, 80=2<br />
Mean final speed = 35<br />
most common 25</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll chime in, too Bob K.  That&#039;s one of the neatest ways I&#039;ve ever seen to display data differences over time.  Wow and thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll chime in, too Bob K.  That&#8217;s one of the neatest ways I&#8217;ve ever seen to display data differences over time.  Wow and thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Willis Eschenbach</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Willis Eschenbach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob K, that&#039;s stupendous. Should be required viewing for all hurricane scientists.

w.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob K, that&#8217;s stupendous. Should be required viewing for all hurricane scientists.</p>
<p>w.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! I didn&#039;t expect front page exposure. LOL

Here are some more animated gifs of the other classes. They clearly demonstrate the differences in detection over the last 150 years. Green for TD/TS and Blue for Cat 1,2.

Cat 1,2 anim. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/21/cat12animug4.gif
T Storms anim. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4167/tstormsanimmb3.gif
T Depressions anim. http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3625/tdepressionsanimjc1.gif

Take note of the total plots for Cat 1,2 and compare to Cat 3,4,5. In the 1851-1900 period Cat 1, 2 plots are higher than the other two periods. Yet is way down in Cat 3,4,5 plots compared with the other periods. The only reasonable explanation I can find for this is lack of ship/shore communication. Ships caught in 3,4,5 may not have had a very high survival rate. Also, what captain isn&#039;t going to steer away from the storm when encountering a severe one.

With 1851-1900 likely severely under-reported, I tend to think those 50 years were likely the worst of the last 150. Can&#039;t prove it though.

The TD/TS coverage has increased dramatically as the years have passed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I didn&#8217;t expect front page exposure. LOL</p>
<p>Here are some more animated gifs of the other classes. They clearly demonstrate the differences in detection over the last 150 years. Green for TD/TS and Blue for Cat 1,2.</p>
<p>Cat 1,2 anim. <a href="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/21/cat12animug4.gif" rel="nofollow">http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/21/cat12animug4.gif</a><br />
T Storms anim. <a href="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4167/tstormsanimmb3.gif" rel="nofollow">http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4167/tstormsanimmb3.gif</a><br />
T Depressions anim. <a href="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3625/tdepressionsanimjc1.gif" rel="nofollow">http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3625/tdepressionsanimjc1.gif</a></p>
<p>Take note of the total plots for Cat 1,2 and compare to Cat 3,4,5. In the 1851-1900 period Cat 1, 2 plots are higher than the other two periods. Yet is way down in Cat 3,4,5 plots compared with the other periods. The only reasonable explanation I can find for this is lack of ship/shore communication. Ships caught in 3,4,5 may not have had a very high survival rate. Also, what captain isn&#8217;t going to steer away from the storm when encountering a severe one.</p>
<p>With 1851-1900 likely severely under-reported, I tend to think those 50 years were likely the worst of the last 150. Can&#8217;t prove it though.</p>
<p>The TD/TS coverage has increased dramatically as the years have passed.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74963</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prior to recon flights, circa 1950, there was little way to tell the strength of an at-sea hurricane other than from a ship&#039;s chance encounter with the eye of the storm. Those were rare. So, just how were those at-sea red dots determined for the two pre-1950 graphs?

Answer - they guessed the windspeed. And guessed and guessed and guessed and guessed and guessed some more and then guessed again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to recon flights, circa 1950, there was little way to tell the strength of an at-sea hurricane other than from a ship&#8217;s chance encounter with the eye of the storm. Those were rare. So, just how were those at-sea red dots determined for the two pre-1950 graphs?</p>
<p>Answer &#8211; they guessed the windspeed. And guessed and guessed and guessed and guessed and guessed some more and then guessed again.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooks Hurd</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brooks Hurd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This graphic displays the impact of the change in methodology over 150 years, not only in the number of TCs recorded, but also in the vast improvement in our ability to capture TC tracks.

Thanks, Bob K!

I am confident that archived data of Pacific and Indian Ocean TCs would show a similar methodologcial improvement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This graphic displays the impact of the change in methodology over 150 years, not only in the number of TCs recorded, but also in the vast improvement in our ability to capture TC tracks.</p>
<p>Thanks, Bob K!</p>
<p>I am confident that archived data of Pacific and Indian Ocean TCs would show a similar methodologcial improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that the undercounts in previous periods are much more than one or two storms per year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that the undercounts in previous periods are much more than one or two storms per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sadlov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/01/11/bob-ks-hurricane-image/#comment-74960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sadlov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vis a vis non shore based measurements, most measurements during all periods are made by US and Canadian based groups. Other countries in the Americas play a very limited role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vis a vis non shore based measurements, most measurements during all periods are made by US and Canadian based groups. Other countries in the Americas play a very limited role.</p>
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