Comments on: Phil Jones and the Dutiful Comrades http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/ by Steve McIntyre Mon, 20 May 2013 09:05:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: MarkW http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80241 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:40:45 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80241 I’m sure glad that I’ve never given Steve M. reason to [snip]

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80240 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:12:28 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80240 What you get is some station data from 2000 in zipped form. I tried and this is it:

date,time,db_id,C,Ch,Cl,Cm,dd,E,ff,G,h,N,P,P0,R24,Rd,RH,Rn,SD,SS,T,Td,Tg,Tgn,Tln,Tn,Tw,Tx,VV,ww
#
2000-03-09,00:00,2,,,,,191,,3,,3000,9,987.98,1003.7,,,79,,53,,-2.25,-5.02,,,,,,,22.8,
2000-03-09,06:00,2,,,,,167,,4,,3000,9,985.08,1000.7,,,73,,,,-1.32,-4.99,,,,,,,30.1,

I don⳴ know whatⳳ that all about, but I can read Russian.

]]> By: Hans Erren http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80239 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:18:11 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80239 try babelfish russian to english:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

]]> By: Warwick Hughes http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80238 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:13:09 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80238 Re my #55 and 59 above.
I have been sent this URL that looks to let you access Russian T data.
If you understand the language.
http://meteo.infospace.ru/win/wcarch/html/r_sel_admin.sht?country=176
clicking on the little arrows seem to take you to station lists and poss of downloading. Is it possible someone with Russian language expertise could check out what could be obtained here.
Or if there is an org behind this where someone speakum English ?

]]> By: Ian Mott http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80237 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:51:12 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80237 An interesting point about the melted permafrost is that this large peat bog is still covered in water for most of the 8 week summer before it freezes again. And we know that peat bogs remain a very stable storage of carbon, especially when under water. This is the case even in tropical locations. It would seem that the claimed massive release of CO2 from this source is, again, of dubious factual basis.

]]> By: JerryB http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80236 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 00:21:24 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80236 Steve,

I’m not sure if I have picked correctly countries that were
once part of Russia, or the USSR, but for the following
countries, GHCN has recent, i.e. post 1999, data for the
numbers of locations indicated on the right:

211 KAZAKHSTAN 8
222 RUSSIAN FEDERATION (ASIAN SECTOR) 67
229 TURKMENISTAN 2
231 UZBEKISTAN 3
605 BELARUS 1
608 BULGARIA 2
609 CROATIA 2
638 RUSSIAN FEDERATION (EUROPEAN SECTOR) 15
650 UKRAINE 5

If it would be of use, I can post, or email, the list of
station numbers.

]]> By: Steve Sadlov http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80235 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:57:58 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80235 RE: #55 – Station number 21 appears to be right at the edge of Sverdlovsk or one of the other industrial or military cities along the east side of the Urals. Definitely not rural!

]]> By: Warwick Hughes http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80234 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:23:40 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80234 Steve re # 56, I have no Russian data bar what is in, Jones 1994, GHCN, GISS, those early USSR data in CDIAC.
I am hoping some reader can point us to a Russian source because most of the 38 stations are lower order sites than those assembled in the major global datasets.

]]> By: Reid http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80233 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:53:03 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80233 Re #57 [snip]

]]> By: MarkR http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/25/phil-jones-and-the-dutiful-comrades/#comment-80232 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:14:07 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1187#comment-80232 #1 Michael Jankowski. I must say that I for one enjoy the literary and other references SteveM is including more and more. The technical stuff is vital, but v. dry. Amusing interludes are a definately a bonus.

I would go further and say that gentle mocking of the Hockey Team and all its works is the minimum that they can expect, and deserve.

If it were up to me, my approach would be far harsher.

[snip]

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