Comments on: Phil Jones and the Kazakh Copper Smelter (47N 67E) http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/ by Steve McIntyre Sun, 19 May 2013 22:53:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: fFreddy http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80583 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:52:01 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80583 In addition to confusion from transcribing Cyrillic, there are quite a few places in Kazakhstan which had both Russian names and Kazakh names. In the aftermath of independence in the early 90s, the former were dropped in favour of the latter.

]]> By: Larry Huldén http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80582 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:17:17 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80582 Both Baikonur and Karsakpay are situated in the western part of Karaganda region.

]]> By: Larry Huldén http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80581 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:13:22 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80581 Karsakpay is very close to Baikonur (near the space center) in Kazakastan, about 400 km SW of Karaganda (city). Karaganda region is quite large and its eastern part has border to Semipalatinsk. Karsakpay at least is not contaminated by nuclear tests.

]]> By: Larry Huldén http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80580 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:53:11 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80580 I thought that we are talking about Kazakstan now. Or former Sovietunion.
Isn’t both Karakpay and Karaganda in Kazakstan ?

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80579 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:30:28 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80579 This is a list of all Kazakhstan stations from the server and there’s nothing resembling Karsakpay/j/whatever…

http://meteo.infospace.ru/win/wcarch/html/r_sel_stn_all.sht?country=108&mode=stn

]]> By: James Erlandson http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80578 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:30:30 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80578 Perhaps it is Qarsaqbay.

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80577 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:09:47 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80577 #9
Karaganda is distant from Karsakpaj – try Google Earth. And Karaganda is listed on that Kazakhstan page, whereas Karsakpaj is not.

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80576 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:07:55 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80576 There’s a weather forecast for Karsakpay (as opposed to Karsakpaj)here http://www.qwikcast.com/cgi-bin/forecast.cgi?zip=Karsakpay,KZ&pid=weatherbase .

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80575 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:56:52 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80575 Karsakpaj missing – maybe.

I consulted that Russian server, where I tried to locate some of the Warwick’s stations and in Kazakhstan, at present there is NO station named Karsakpaj or other with the same number 35663.
http://http://meteo.infospace.ru/win/wcarch/html/r_sel_stn_all.sht?country=108&mode=stn

]]> By: Larry Huldén http://climateaudit.org/2007/02/28/phil-jones-and-the-kazakh-copper-smelter/#comment-80574 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:56:40 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1203#comment-80574 There is a quite important airport in Karaganda and I don’t think they have stopped recording temperatures there in the 1990′s. Domestic flights in Soviet made usually stops in Karaganda, also after 1990.
Just by chance I made some excursions there in 1990 during an expedition to Kazakstan and Kirgistan. To me that place resembled a rural place, except for the air field. Of course there might still occur UHI because of gradually increasing flight traffic.

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