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	<title>Comments on: A Reply to an Angry Dendroclimatologist</title>
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		<title>By: Sharon parkar</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon parkar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for providing information and prices of different variety of Eyebrow I need this info because i am using online shopping services.:)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing information and prices of different variety of Eyebrow I need this info because i am using online shopping services.:)<br />
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		<title>By: Tanie Noclegi Karpacz</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanie Noclegi Karpacz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting article. I was searching this all day. Thanks&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I was searching this all day. Thanks<strong></strong></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Chresand</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Chresand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The anonymous dendro deserved every bit of this hard-hitting satire... and more.

The simple fact that is sitting in the open here is that the peer-review system turns academic scientists into cowards.  Why challenge the prevailing opinions when you have to submit your grant application and journal article to those that hold the prevailing opinions?  Better to toe the line, get your studies funded, continue with your career advancement, and bash Steve M for bringing up uncomfortable facts.  The &quot;everyone knows which studies are good&quot; statement is iconic, sad and pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anonymous dendro deserved every bit of this hard-hitting satire&#8230; and more.</p>
<p>The simple fact that is sitting in the open here is that the peer-review system turns academic scientists into cowards.  Why challenge the prevailing opinions when you have to submit your grant application and journal article to those that hold the prevailing opinions?  Better to toe the line, get your studies funded, continue with your career advancement, and bash Steve M for bringing up uncomfortable facts.  The &#8220;everyone knows which studies are good&#8221; statement is iconic, sad and pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#26 May I suggest that you email Rob Wilson and /or Jan Esper directly as I&#039;m doubtful that anyone is going to support this claim here. Their webpages are at http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/people/person.html?indv=930  and www.wsl.ch/staff/jan.esper/publications.html .  I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;sure&lt;/em&gt; that they will be very prompt to clarigy this for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 May I suggest that you email Rob Wilson and /or Jan Esper directly as I&#8217;m doubtful that anyone is going to support this claim here. Their webpages are at <a href="http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/people/person.html?indv=930" rel="nofollow">http://www.geos.ed.ac.uk/people/person.html?indv=930</a>  and <a href="http://www.wsl.ch/staff/jan.esper/publications.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsl.ch/staff/jan.esper/publications.html</a> .  I&#8217;m <em>sure</em> that they will be very prompt to clarigy this for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Sudha Shenoy</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sudha Shenoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Those in the know, who really know the science, know not to use that chronology and know who still use that chronology. The work that uses that chronology for a temperature reconstruction is less-respected than others&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve asked this before: Please, please: Can we lay readers have a reference? So we too can see both sides? Please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those in the know, who really know the science, know not to use that chronology and know who still use that chronology. The work that uses that chronology for a temperature reconstruction is less-respected than others</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve asked this before: Please, please: Can we lay readers have a reference? So we too can see both sides? Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee, the mere use of the word &quot;plausible&quot; by a poster is insufficient grounds to hijack a thread to discuss the Idsos. I&#039;ve transferred this to Unthreaded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, the mere use of the word &#8220;plausible&#8221; by a poster is insufficient grounds to hijack a thread to discuss the Idsos. I&#8217;ve transferred this to Unthreaded.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkW</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JohnM,

You claim that those &quot;in the know&quot;, know which papers are faulty and don&#039;t cite them, so there is no need to tell the rest of the world.

The problem is that the rest of the world assumes that any paper that is peer reviewed must be good.  Then they use these faulty papers
as a basis for their own work.  Such as the in the climate change debate.

The result is that your desire to protect your peers from criticism that might hurt their feelings ends up being support for bad policy
based on bad data.

That&#039;s not good.  The implications of Kyoto go way beyond the feelings of a handfull of dendroclimatologists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnM,</p>
<p>You claim that those &#8220;in the know&#8221;, know which papers are faulty and don&#8217;t cite them, so there is no need to tell the rest of the world.</p>
<p>The problem is that the rest of the world assumes that any paper that is peer reviewed must be good.  Then they use these faulty papers<br />
as a basis for their own work.  Such as the in the climate change debate.</p>
<p>The result is that your desire to protect your peers from criticism that might hurt their feelings ends up being support for bad policy<br />
based on bad data.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not good.  The implications of Kyoto go way beyond the feelings of a handfull of dendroclimatologists.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#22 - Please tolerate my ignorance a bit more and tell me if there is a way to statistically estimate the relative contributions of precipitation and temperature to tree-ring data if all three variables are available for a single tree or a composite of tree chronologies, assuming of course that other factors are minimally influencing tree growth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22 &#8211; Please tolerate my ignorance a bit more and tell me if there is a way to statistically estimate the relative contributions of precipitation and temperature to tree-ring data if all three variables are available for a single tree or a composite of tree chronologies, assuming of course that other factors are minimally influencing tree growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/11/a-reply-to-an-angry-dendroclimatologist/#comment-84753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#8. yes, there are collections of precipitation data just as there are collections of temperature data. I&#039;m not as familiar with it though I&#039;ve looked at some data sets when I was trying to locate Mann&#039;s precipitation data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8. yes, there are collections of precipitation data just as there are collections of temperature data. I&#8217;m not as familiar with it though I&#8217;ve looked at some data sets when I was trying to locate Mann&#8217;s precipitation data.</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Jim in #18 is not 99.9% correct, then let the dendros rectify this &quot;misinformation&quot; in &quot;Dendroclimatologists answer back&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jim in #18 is not 99.9% correct, then let the dendros rectify this &#8220;misinformation&#8221; in &#8220;Dendroclimatologists answer back&#8221;.</p>
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