Comments on: The Tree in the Desert http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/ by Steve McIntyre Tue, 21 May 2013 15:32:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Hans Erren http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84913 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:36:08 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84913 re 12:

Your picture from holland is a pinus sylvestris the picture below is a real Juniper (Juniperus communis) from Kootwijkerzand

Thanks to the dutch juniperguild
http://www.jeneverbesgilde.nl/pagina32

]]> By: PHE http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84912 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:52:54 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84912 And this is the general location of the trees. The white line is the border – UAE to the left and Oman to the right. Dubai is on the coast on the west side of the image. Buraimi is indicated by the arrow. The red dunes extend along the north-south zone parallel with the border.

And here’s a ‘zoom-in’ to some individual trees sprouting out of the red dunes:

]]> By: David Smith http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84911 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:25:07 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84911 RE #16 Those are beautiful shots, PHE.

I bet they’ve no problem with squirrels.

]]> By: PHE http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84910 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:33:52 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84910 Here are some trees in the sandy desert near the town of Buraimi, close to the Oman/UAE border. I admit they do not look as lush as the original picture, but the impact is similar.

All photos taken by me – for real – in 1990.

]]> By: PHE http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84909 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:11:36 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84909 OK, it working now. My photo is in fact from the Netherlands. The ‘climate change’ in question occurred around 10,000 years ago. As the glaciers of northern Europe receded, they left an area of fine sand in this part of the Netherlands. I suspect the dunes were covered with vegetation for many years, but with a delicate soil that has eroded away more recently, perhaps due to influence of man. There are several dunes like this. This one, at Soestduinen, is clearly visible on satellite images, and the individual trees too if you zoom in. What does this all show? I could see such photos being used someday to illustrate severe impacts of global warming in Europe! A photo can tell a thousand words, but also perhaps a few lies when mis-used. Other examples are images of how far glaciers have receded since 1880s, and of polar bears stranded on melting ice.

The dunes and tress of Soestduinen from above:

]]> By: PHE http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84908 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:00:39 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84908 I’ve tried a photo upload via flickr.com (thanks John A for advice). But got an error message about not having permission to access this site.

]]> By: PHE http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84907 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 06:57:49 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84907 I don’t yet have the Oman photos. They’re from pre-digital days, so I need to scan them. In the meantime, here’s one from a northern European country. Its strange situation is definitely a result of climate change. Its 40km from the coast, so not on a beach.

]]> By: agesilaus http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84906 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:27:26 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84906 Well heck no links came thru on the above post,

Just got to pbase.com and type in Dunhaung in the search box. I think the spam filter is eating the links

]]> By: agesilaus http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84905 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:06:00 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84905

Is a search on PBase.com for photos with the tag “Dunhuang”. There are 194 photos found in the search and 21 galleries or photos. And several shots show trees in highly desert areas, like this one:

I got no hits for “Dulan” on PBase. PBase by the way is an excellent source of photos, they have millions of photos posted by the photographers and most are fairly high quality shots. They also have an excellent search engine.

]]> By: twq http://climateaudit.org/2007/04/14/the-tree-in-the-desert/#comment-84904 Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:16:39 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1414#comment-84904 The second point that I express is about the closing slide present in Shao’s presentation. Everyone knows the picture of a tree in the desert is last one of Shao’s presentation. It is specially noted that in the last slide, the word “Thanks” is clearly displayed on the picture slide. For me, it is easy to understand it is just a picture, which has little to do with the topic of the presentation, and it just a closing slide to express the talker’s thanks. Myabe this misunderstanding is due to culture conflict between east and west. Sometimes some Chinese scientists would’d like to display one humorous or kind irrelative-presentation picture (for example, a beutiful tulip) as closing slide. In order to avoid mispresentation or misinformation, I think it is reasonable one should communicate with related scientists and ask what you are concerned before you adopt and comment it, especially for this Blog of Climate Audit.

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