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By: Cash Advance

Cash Advance — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:30:48 +0000

I calculated an 11-year running mean and then added 0.4 to match the anomaly-scale of the Swindle graphic (the Soon version is in red.) The Swindle version appears to match the Hansen version archived by Willie Soon up to a change in level (which is irrelevant to the issue of 1940-1965 temperature decline). As someone who’s looked at a lot of data and data versions, my own opinion is that the Soon version is a version of the Hansen data.

By: Steve Sadlov

Steve Sadlov — Tue, 15 May 2007 16:31:24 +0000

RE: #259 and related previous – of course, the real issues impacting the Atlantic/Gulf coast are tectonic subsidence combined with coastal erosion / wetland destruction not rising absolute sea level (in fact, this latter seems like it may be neither rising nor falling right now, as the long rise after the great melt peters out). Interestingly, the Florida Peninsula may be somewhat exempt from the subsidence due to being close the plate boundary between the North American and Caribbean Plate. In the nearby Bahamas, there are even emergent features. So much for Chicken Little.

By: Mark T.

Mark T. — Tue, 15 May 2007 15:30:39 +0000

I have every confidence that the Corps of Engineers can build a levee system to protect us.

Your comment was jamming till this tidbit. As a former resident of Missouri through much of the 90s (think floods in the early 90s) and even the Florida Atlantic coast from 1995 through 2002, I can attest that I would _never_ trust the COE to build sufficient levees, particularly for the doom that the Reverend is predicting.

Mark

By: MarkW

MarkW — Tue, 15 May 2007 11:13:57 +0000

jae, I was going to make a comment regarding how liberal the MSM is, but I figured it would be getting too far off topic.

By: Joe Ellebracht

Joe Ellebracht — Tue, 15 May 2007 02:06:08 +0000

I guess An Inconvenient Truth is a little off topic here, but I just want to report that the sea has not yet risen to engulf Southwest Florida, where I live. In fact, the sea seeems be just about exactly where it was 5 years ago.
Also, malaria has not developed yet into a big problem, unless of course it is being hidden. No cases have been reported in the media.
Homeowners insurance with wind damage is available, even on the beach. Mr. Ward’s markeing budget needs to be increased, as some of the insurance carriers have not noticed his concerns. Free publicity is not sufficient apparently.
While most of the US population appears to have accepted AIT as gospel, the coastal county where I live is expecting a 60% increase in population over the next 20 years. There is no mention of a mandatory boat ownership requirement. Thus the agreement with Mr. Gore’s vision is not 100% yet, at least among our county officials.
The Florida electrical utility is planning a huge coal fired power plant to accomodate estimated future demand. They too seem to have ignored the message, as clearly once all of the big cities are under water demand for electricity will decline. I note that the plant is coal fired, even here in one of the sunniest parts of the country. The utility officials and the state regulators seem to have ignored the science (or magical thinking) that says solar is the way to go.
Once again science seems to be running ahead of conventional thinking at least on the local level. We Floridians will just have to wait for our country’s famed central planners to issue regulations. I have every confidence that the Corps of Engineers can build a levee system to protect us.

By: bender

bender — Mon, 14 May 2007 22:48:02 +0000

It’s a problem when (1) buffoonery is more entertaining than earnest social concern, and (2) the appetite for entertainment is seemingly insatiable. (Wait, I think I see a tippy runaway positive feedback here.)

By: jae

jae — Mon, 14 May 2007 22:35:31 +0000

242:

The US used to have a policy that required news agencies to air alternative views to their opinion pieces. It isn’t just moronic, it’s a violation of the 1st amendment. House dems are (were?) trying to resurrect such policies because they don’t want to have their views drowned out in the media (hardly a fear, IMO).

This is an effort to silence, or at least buffer, the conservative radio and TV talk shows. It really bothers the libs that they cannot keep a pro-liberal program going; whereas there are dozens of successful conservative programs.

By: DeWitt Payne

DeWitt Payne — Mon, 14 May 2007 20:32:57 +0000

Re: #227

You asked for it. We have two (or more) kinds of catcher/thrower. Blue, representing water vapor, are predominant at the south end but their density falls off rapidly as you go north. Red, carbon dioxide, are fewer in number but don’t drop off as fast as you go north. At the south end, red is only a small fraction, but becomes approximately equal to blue at the north end (this gets rather complicated as the ratios have to be corrected for the differing absorptivity of the two molecules, but the ratios should be knowable in principle). Now each type of catcher/thrower can only catch balls that are traveling in certain velocity ranges, and only throw at certain velocities, some of which overlap. In addition, at the south end, all the jostling and doppler effect (everybody’s moving faster at the south end) allows catching and throwing over broader ranges. The speed range of balls coming off the south end is such that about 10% of the balls near the middle of the velocity range are not caught at all. Also, some of the balls coming in from the north are caught as well. The fastest ones are caught by some of the otherwise non-thrower/catchers (oxygen UV absorption) and some of the slowest ones are caught by red (I think, or maybe blue or both). We could also make the number of blue catchers proportional to the rate of balls coming off the south end, but that’s the subject of a different thread.

# 228, If you take the unlikely situation of an instantaneous doubling of CO2, then the troposphere will indeed warm significantly faster than the surface, but given the observed rather rapid response time of the atmosphere to volcanic eruptions and El Nino/La Nina events (much less the sun rising and setting each day), I don’t think ghg’s are going up fast enough for this to be observable. I still think it has more to do with water vapor and latent heat of vaporization. But that’s my opinion, I don’t have any numbers. Given the range of errors in the radiation codes found in some of the GCM’s, I don’t entirely trust their numbers either.