Comments on: Spot the Hockey Stick #17: Lloyds of London http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/ by Steve McIntyre Sat, 18 May 2013 19:12:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: T J Olson http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87200 Tue, 08 May 2007 08:47:35 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87200 The dodgy delay in getting up-to-date for Lloyds, leading to certainty, is worse than you know, Steve.

Check out this piece a reported by Reuters.

Droughts and rising sea levels are increasing! The Amazon may run dry and flooding could swell by an order of magnitude! “These things are fact, not hypothesis,” said Wendy Baker, the president of Lloyd’s America in an interview on Monday.

It’s mass hysteria out there.

]]> By: Jos Verhulst http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87199 Mon, 07 May 2007 15:55:35 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87199 I have only a paper version of the article. The title is “Der wohltemperierte Planet”. It is possible to buy it at the website of ‘Der Spiegel’, but it isn’t freely available.

]]> By: John A http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87198 Mon, 07 May 2007 15:50:50 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87198 Actually Jos, I can give you another german language article dealing with carbon dioxide, the greenhouse effect and the Hockey Stick “The CO2 Fraud,the greatest scientific scandal of modern times”. It contains the following graphic comparing the IPCC TAR to the SAR, with a comment that will warm the cockles of Steve’s heart.

[The German word "falsche" means "false"]

]]> By: John A http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87197 Mon, 07 May 2007 15:15:47 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87197 Re #7

Jos,

Could you send a copy to my e-mail address? I can get it translated no problem.

]]> By: Jos Verhulst http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87196 Mon, 07 May 2007 15:08:34 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87196 The Hockey Stick also appears in Der Spiegel (a major German weekly), May 7th, 2007, p.153. Moreover, on p.154 Raymond Bradley is introduced as one of the authors behind the Hockey Stick, and is quoted as saying: “Wir müssen (…) davon ausgehen, dass es noch nie im letzten Millenium wärmer war als heute” (‘we should accept as a basic fact, that never during the past millenium is was warmer than it is today’). Moreover, Der Spiegel also writes: “Kritiker versuchten bisher vergebens, Bradley und seinem Mitstreiter Michael Mann Fehler in ihren Berechnungen nachzuweisen” (‘sceptics tried to find errors in the calculations of Bradley and his associate Michael Mann, but until now without any success’).

]]> By: John Nicklin http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87195 Mon, 07 May 2007 14:35:31 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87195 4: Nanny_govt_sucks

Insurers will use any excuse to raise their rates.

The other side of this fundamental law is that the insurers will use any excuse not to pay. Its like one of our Canadian philosophers, Red Green, said: “At the top of the insurance form they tell you in big numbers what they are going to pay… and in really small letters at the bottom, they tell you why they aren’t going to pay it.”

]]> By: samoore http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87194 Sun, 06 May 2007 01:26:36 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87194 Steve, thanks for this.

It makes for interesting reading (around the campfire, late at night, to scare the children).
They “out-Gore” Big Al!

One look at the bibliography, though, explains a lot….

]]> By: nanny_govt_sucks http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87193 Sat, 05 May 2007 17:14:25 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87193 Insurers will use any excuse to raise their rates.

Reminds me of the SNL fake-commercial skit where senior citizens were frightened into buying insurance against robot attacks (video is online here: http://www.robotcombat.com/video_oldglory_hi.html).

]]> By: Stan Palmer http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87192 Sat, 05 May 2007 16:36:15 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87192 Is anyone else here old enough to remember the repines to the Challenger space shuttle disaster. There was an absolute feeding frenzy among insurers for liability insurance. Rates skyrocketed and claims were made that rates were only going to go higher. However there was no underlying crisis that required this. It was only retail insurers taking advantage of consumer credulousness. Children’s athletic leagues were being forced to suspend operations because they could not afford the insurance. How the destruction of a US government owned and operated research vehicle could cause an increase in risk for childrens’ athletic leagues was never explained. What happened was that institutions such as school boards, which were faced with enormous insurance premiums, stated to insure themselves and offset their self-insurance by entering the re-insurance fields themselves. They cut out the retail insurance level and liability premiums collapsed.

The same thing can happen with climate change. It is understood that insurance companies, like most others, cannot help themselves. They will take any excuse to try to gouge the public. However insurance is easy to write and the re-insurance filed is open to all significant players.

]]> By: John Blethen http://climateaudit.org/2007/05/05/spot-the-hockey-stick-17-lloyds-of-london/#comment-87191 Sat, 05 May 2007 16:11:24 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1533#comment-87191 $7.2 billion profit last year: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/03/29/business/EU-FIN-EARNS-Britain-Lloyds.php

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