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	<title>Comments on: FOI Request to NOAA</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Solomon&#8217;s &#8220;Divergence&#8221; Problem &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-256715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Solomon&#8217;s &#8220;Divergence&#8221; Problem &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] few days later (May 31, 2007) &#8211; see CA post here, I sent an FOI request to NOAA (WG1 Co-Chair Solomon and TSU Secretary Martin Manning were both [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few days later (May 31, 2007) &#8211; see CA post here, I sent an FOI request to NOAA (WG1 Co-Chair Solomon and TSU Secretary Martin Manning were both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NOAA and the Three Monkeys &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-247563</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NOAA and the Three Monkeys &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] month ago for the review comments (now online at IPCC) and the review editors comments, reported at CA here. Here is an excerpt: I request that a copy of any NOAA records (documents, memoranda, review [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] month ago for the review comments (now online at IPCC) and the review editors comments, reported at CA here. Here is an excerpt: I request that a copy of any NOAA records (documents, memoranda, review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terence Hale</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terence Hale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
As of World Water Day in March 2008. It&#039;s ironic with ice of considerable size just to separate it&#039;s self from the Antarctic and the decrees of the ice thickness in the Bering sea many people are worried to much water (increase in sea levels). It must be a logistical problem as we will soon have a lot of water to go around.
Regards Dr. Terence Hale]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
As of World Water Day in March 2008. It&#8217;s ironic with ice of considerable size just to separate it&#8217;s self from the Antarctic and the decrees of the ice thickness in the Bering sea many people are worried to much water (increase in sea levels). It must be a logistical problem as we will soon have a lot of water to go around.<br />
Regards Dr. Terence Hale</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I received the following email today with an attachment:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank You for your Request.

Monique Love&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The return address had a noaa.gov address, but I wasn&#039;t going to open the attachment without confirming this, observing that attachments to email from &quot;Monique Love&quot; were not always benign on the internet. It turned out to be a valid email with a Word attachment acknowledging my FOI request.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received the following email today with an attachment:</p>
<blockquote><p>Thank You for your Request.</p>
<p>Monique Love</p></blockquote>
<p>The return address had a noaa.gov address, but I wasn&#8217;t going to open the attachment without confirming this, observing that attachments to email from &#8220;Monique Love&#8221; were not always benign on the internet. It turned out to be a valid email with a Word attachment acknowledging my FOI request.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeS</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoeS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 08:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;C&#039;mon folks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Done.  Don&#039;t be tellin&#039; people I never did anything for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>C&#8217;mon folks</p></blockquote>
<p>Done.  Don&#8217;t be tellin&#8217; people I never did anything for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#15. Great. C&#039;mon folks. You don&#039;t have to be an AR4 reviewer to ask for the IPCC review comments. Shame them into putting them online by FOIing NOAA. The more the merrier. It&#039;s a mouseclick away. Just cut-and-paste with a minor edit. If you feel ambitious, look at the webpage linked here and vary the primary sources to your personal favorites.

&lt;blockquote&gt;FOIA at noaa.gov

May 31, 2007

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Public Reference Facility (OFA56)
Attn: NOAA FOIA Officer
1315 East West Highway (SSMC3)
Room 10730
Silver Spring, Maryland 20910

Re: Freedom of Information Act Request

Dear NOAA FOIA Officer:

This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act.

NOAA describes the contributions of NOAA employees to the recent International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, and, in particular, to Working Group 1 at its website http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html.

I request that a copy of any NOAA records (documents, memoranda, review comments, reports, internal and external correspondence or mail including e-mail correspondence and attachments to or from NOAA employees) be provided to me on the following subjects:

(1) review comments on (a) the Second Order Draft and (b) the Final Draft of the Fourth Assessment Report of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Working Group I, including, but not limited to, all expert, government and review editor comments;
(2) all annotated responses to such comments by Chapter Lead Authors.

A primary source for NOAA records is Susan Solomon. NOAA ( http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html ) states that Susan Solomon, “a senior scientist of the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colo., is co-chair of Working Group 1 (WG1), the Physical Science Basis.” Another primary source for NOAA records is Martin Manning, another scientist with the Aeronomy Lab in Boulder CO, who acted as director of the IPCC Working Group I Technical Services Unit.

All review comments were submitted in digital format; collations have already been made and all the requested information should be easily located by the primary sources. I believe a fee waiver is appropriate since the purpose of the request is research.

I also include a telephone number (xxx) at which I can be contacted between 9 and 7 pm Eastern Daylight Time, if necessary, to discuss any aspect of my request.

Thank you for your consideration of this request.

Requester Name and Address&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#15. Great. C&#8217;mon folks. You don&#8217;t have to be an AR4 reviewer to ask for the IPCC review comments. Shame them into putting them online by FOIing NOAA. The more the merrier. It&#8217;s a mouseclick away. Just cut-and-paste with a minor edit. If you feel ambitious, look at the webpage linked here and vary the primary sources to your personal favorites.</p>
<blockquote><p>FOIA at noaa.gov</p>
<p>May 31, 2007</p>
<p>National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration<br />
Public Reference Facility (OFA56)<br />
Attn: NOAA FOIA Officer<br />
1315 East West Highway (SSMC3)<br />
Room 10730<br />
Silver Spring, Maryland 20910</p>
<p>Re: Freedom of Information Act Request</p>
<p>Dear NOAA FOIA Officer:</p>
<p>This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act.</p>
<p>NOAA describes the contributions of NOAA employees to the recent International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, and, in particular, to Working Group 1 at its website <a href="http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html</a>.</p>
<p>I request that a copy of any NOAA records (documents, memoranda, review comments, reports, internal and external correspondence or mail including e-mail correspondence and attachments to or from NOAA employees) be provided to me on the following subjects:</p>
<p>(1) review comments on (a) the Second Order Draft and (b) the Final Draft of the Fourth Assessment Report of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Working Group I, including, but not limited to, all expert, government and review editor comments;<br />
(2) all annotated responses to such comments by Chapter Lead Authors.</p>
<p>A primary source for NOAA records is Susan Solomon. NOAA ( <a href="http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpo.noaa.gov/ipcc/first_ipcc.html</a> ) states that Susan Solomon, “a senior scientist of the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colo., is co-chair of Working Group 1 (WG1), the Physical Science Basis.” Another primary source for NOAA records is Martin Manning, another scientist with the Aeronomy Lab in Boulder CO, who acted as director of the IPCC Working Group I Technical Services Unit.</p>
<p>All review comments were submitted in digital format; collations have already been made and all the requested information should be easily located by the primary sources. I believe a fee waiver is appropriate since the purpose of the request is research.</p>
<p>I also include a telephone number (xxx) at which I can be contacted between 9 and 7 pm Eastern Daylight Time, if necessary, to discuss any aspect of my request.</p>
<p>Thank you for your consideration of this request.</p>
<p>Requester Name and Address</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 03:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOAA has been FOIAed by me.

Let&#039;s see what happens]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOAA has been FOIAed by me.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what happens</p>
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		<title>By: Robert S.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe that&#039;s what we should call them, &quot;The Disconnectors&quot;!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe that&#8217;s what we should call them, &#8220;The Disconnectors&#8221;!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert S.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One might make the argument that when you&#039;re writing a work of fiction, you don&#039;t want anyone to read it until you&#039;ve put it through the spell checker, checked that the characters are consistent in themselves and in their interactions with others, and repair obvious grammer mistakes after waiting some time before editing it.  Then you&#039;d have others proofread it.

So there is a reason somebody might not want to let something out while &lt;strong&gt;they&lt;/strong&gt; consider it being in the original raw state.  I think the problem is here we&#039;re at the &quot;others proofread it&quot; stage, but some still act as if we&#039;re not.

Might that be where the disconnect is?  It seems there&#039;s always a disconnect.  Some people just disconnect things on purpose, with others it&#039;s accidental....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might make the argument that when you&#8217;re writing a work of fiction, you don&#8217;t want anyone to read it until you&#8217;ve put it through the spell checker, checked that the characters are consistent in themselves and in their interactions with others, and repair obvious grammer mistakes after waiting some time before editing it.  Then you&#8217;d have others proofread it.</p>
<p>So there is a reason somebody might not want to let something out while <strong>they</strong> consider it being in the original raw state.  I think the problem is here we&#8217;re at the &#8220;others proofread it&#8221; stage, but some still act as if we&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>Might that be where the disconnect is?  It seems there&#8217;s always a disconnect.  Some people just disconnect things on purpose, with others it&#8217;s accidental&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sprentov</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/06/07/foi-request-to-noaa/#comment-91071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sprentov]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;After this latest development, I am waiting to hear from the posters who appear here to defend and explain the bureaucratic obfuscation and the IPCC handling of this matter. That continues to amuse me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Try here http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/forums/3/238165/ShowThread.aspx#238165]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>After this latest development, I am waiting to hear from the posters who appear here to defend and explain the bureaucratic obfuscation and the IPCC handling of this matter. That continues to amuse me.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try here <a href="http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/forums/3/238165/ShowThread.aspx#238165" rel="nofollow">http://theweatheroutlook.com/twocommunity/forums/3/238165/ShowThread.aspx#238165</a></p>
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