Mark

Mark

Various people insist on discussing television ratings and SH cooling when Steve obviously set up this thread as a place to post links to hot pictures of Shakira

http://www.shakiragallery.com/displayimage.php?album=984&pos=4

This is even better than finally getting a thermodynamics thread!

You can find his responses at:
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1718#comment-119294 ,
starting at entry #386.

Why Live Earth was a Dead Loss

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/07/10/bmliveearth1.xml

There were 70,000 people in Wembley Stadium. The organisers had hoped for a television audience of two billion, to highlight the imminent dangers of global warming. On stage, Tom Chaplin from Keane vainly tried to lead a singalong. Behind him, a big screen boasted “We Called – You Answered”, while the numbers who had responded to Live Earth’s text message pledge were rolled out. The first line was “3,389 UK responses”.

Frankly, my local community signed up more people to protest against a phone mast, and our only celebrity was a voiceover actor for Bob the Builder.

And viewer numbers were in the millions not the billions (a common problem with AGW science – the real numbers always seem to be less than predicted).

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22048874-2,00.html

So, where’s Al Gore now? I bet in a hot and sunny place…

From current EU report:

“Recently the UC “Clean Air for Europe” program estimated that more then 370 000 people die prematurely each year due to current air pollution level (e.g. from fine particulate matter and ozone)… The increased share of diesel vehicles is a significant problem…”

http://reports.eea.europa.eu/eea_report_2006_3/en/term_2005.pdf

Page 20. They are talking about ground transport air pollution in EU 15. BTW, this EU report demonstrates ravaging increase of CO2 emissions from transport sector in Europe, Kyoto notwithstanding.

Direct estimations of diesel cars share ‘€” versus gasoline cars ‘€” in harmful air pollution is tricky to make, and for understandable reasons this particular problem is not well publicized. But some rough estimations could be done considering this:

1)diesel car emits about three times NOx of gasoline car (0.5 g/km for diesel versus 0.15 for gasoline according to Euro 3 standard of year 2000, and 0.25 g/km versus 0.08 g/km according to current Euro 4 standard from 2005), and emit extremely harmful PM soot (0.14 g/km in 1992, 0.05 g/km in 2000, 0.025 g/km in 2005). In US (same already in Japan and practically same in Canada) current T2B5 emission standards are equal for gasoline and diesel cars (that’s why there are no diesel cars on sale ‘€” they can not meet emission standard), being 0.044 g/km for NOx and 0.0063 g/km for PM ‘€” about 4-5 times tougher than current emission standard for diesel cars in Europe.

2)personal transportation consumes about 65% of transportation liquid fuel;

3)for couple of years sales of diesel cars in most European countries exceeded sales of gasoline cars, and rising;

4)current European legislation makes mandatory CO2 emission cap of 130 g/km for cars. No regular gasoline car can meet it, hybrids are not able to catch any significant part of the market (extremely successful hybrid cars in US account for only 2% of sales for new light-duty vehicles), and only small diesel cars could meet this requirement. From the other hand only PROPOSED Euro 6 ‘€” in 2014 ‘€” will bring PM emissions from diesel cars to current US levels (0.005 g/km), and twice higher than current US standard for NOx ‘€” 0.08 g/km versus current US 0.0044 g/km. Quite telling about preferences of European legislators.

In addition, if using CARB emission factors and their methodology to estimate premature death from diesel air pollution (standard practice for CARB and EPA for accessing any new proposed emission legislation), 100 000 premature death number seems quite conservative.