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	<title>Comments on: Pain in Maine, but they can measure rain</title>
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		<title>By: Phil.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #363

Actually it falls mainly in the Loire, not that far away though. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #363</p>
<p>Actually it falls mainly in the Loire, not that far away though. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95629</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony and Kristen, I don&#039;t know how I missed an obvious comment on this before:   MBH98 and, even more remarkably Mann et al 2007, uses precipitation data from Paris, France for this gridcell - which I summarized:  The rain in Maine falls mainly in the Seine.  A remarkable teleconnection!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony and Kristen, I don&#8217;t know how I missed an obvious comment on this before:   MBH98 and, even more remarkably Mann et al 2007, uses precipitation data from Paris, France for this gridcell &#8211; which I summarized:  The rain in Maine falls mainly in the Seine.  A remarkable teleconnection!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkW</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boris,

If he is wrong, then it should be trivial to prove it.
Your declaring him wrong carries no weight.  Especially given how many times you have been proven wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris,</p>
<p>If he is wrong, then it should be trivial to prove it.<br />
Your declaring him wrong carries no weight.  Especially given how many times you have been proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Urbinto</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Urbinto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#347 Yeah I got that, j/k a bit.  You know, the whole &#039;literal&#039; thing.  :)

#359 Steve don&#039;t worry, it&#039;s just Boris logic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#347 Yeah I got that, j/k a bit.  You know, the whole &#8216;literal&#8217; thing.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>#359 Steve don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s just Boris logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Schafer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Schafer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#359

Boris knows all this.  He is simply distracting attention from the main point of the thread.  Look at how many posts have been directed his way, rather than continuing to discuss the point of this blog entry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#359</p>
<p>Boris knows all this.  He is simply distracting attention from the main point of the thread.  Look at how many posts have been directed his way, rather than continuing to discuss the point of this blog entry.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#332. Boris,  CA links to a number of sites that discuss climate issues, including realclimate and other sites that are highly critical of climateaudit. Linking to these sites does not constitute an endorsement.  Likewise, I&#039;ve linked to some sites that have supported views expressed here. Again, by linking to those sites, I do not endorse the views expressed at those sites.   Similarly posters, including yourself, are free to express their views here and I do not endorse those views. I do not have time to specifically agree or disagree with individual posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#332. Boris,  CA links to a number of sites that discuss climate issues, including realclimate and other sites that are highly critical of climateaudit. Linking to these sites does not constitute an endorsement.  Likewise, I&#8217;ve linked to some sites that have supported views expressed here. Again, by linking to those sites, I do not endorse the views expressed at those sites.   Similarly posters, including yourself, are free to express their views here and I do not endorse those views. I do not have time to specifically agree or disagree with individual posts.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#320,
I noticed the same thing when looking at various GOES shots. The near equatorial trough (ITCZ) is fairly quiet -esp in the West PAC. It would be interesting to hear from the folks at either the JTWC or Hurricane Center. I&#039;m sure the AGW proponents would argue that the North Atlantic really doesn&#039;t get going until August (which is true), but normally the West PAC has at least 1 to 2 Tropical Storms forming every 48-96 hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#320,<br />
I noticed the same thing when looking at various GOES shots. The near equatorial trough (ITCZ) is fairly quiet -esp in the West PAC. It would be interesting to hear from the folks at either the JTWC or Hurricane Center. I&#8217;m sure the AGW proponents would argue that the North Atlantic really doesn&#8217;t get going until August (which is true), but normally the West PAC has at least 1 to 2 Tropical Storms forming every 48-96 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey Levin</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/07/15/pain-in-maine-but-they-can-measure-rain/#comment-95623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrey Levin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boris:

Try to understand that trashing Flat Earth Society is one thing, and shutting down their web site is completely another. But probably you would not appreciate the difference, being born and living in a free world and having no idea how totalitarian ideology is used to be forced down the throat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris:</p>
<p>Try to understand that trashing Flat Earth Society is one thing, and shutting down their web site is completely another. But probably you would not appreciate the difference, being born and living in a free world and having no idea how totalitarian ideology is used to be forced down the throat.</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jae]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[351: Borissssssss:
You said, &quot;So, telling someone not to read Motl because he has no idea what he is talking about regarding CO2 is equal to the USSR?&quot;

Can you please explain why you think Motl has no idea what he is talking about?  What an undefensible position you have now placed yourself in.  LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>351: Borissssssss:<br />
You said, &#8220;So, telling someone not to read Motl because he has no idea what he is talking about regarding CO2 is equal to the USSR?&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you please explain why you think Motl has no idea what he is talking about?  What an undefensible position you have now placed yourself in.  LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: gdn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gdn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Ian, some climate science papers have impressed me in the same way. I&#039;ve seen well-reasoned papers suddenly take a logical leap in an attempt to connect to AGW.

My conclusion was that they might be doing that for funding purposes - they sold the research idea as something connected to AGW in order to get it approved, then feel compelled to insert a standard paragraph saying, “yes, it&#039;s AGW” into the paper, even though the body of the research doesn&#039;t solidly support that conclusion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or even &lt;em&gt;address&lt;/em&gt; such a conclusion.  A reference to the fact of AGW appears out of the blue like a Statement of Faith in many papers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ian, some climate science papers have impressed me in the same way. I&#8217;ve seen well-reasoned papers suddenly take a logical leap in an attempt to connect to AGW.</p>
<p>My conclusion was that they might be doing that for funding purposes &#8211; they sold the research idea as something connected to AGW in order to get it approved, then feel compelled to insert a standard paragraph saying, “yes, it&#8217;s AGW” into the paper, even though the body of the research doesn&#8217;t solidly support that conclusion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or even <em>address</em> such a conclusion.  A reference to the fact of AGW appears out of the blue like a Statement of Faith in many papers.</p>
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