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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike,

 Very nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p> Very nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cassin</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Cassin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Steve and group,

I&#039;ve developed an R resource on www.stikir.com.  It should be useful for those of you having trouble installing R, finding it difficult to climb the learning curve, or having problems accessing or using the large climate datasets.

It&#039;s a wiki site where you can enter R scripts.  The server will run it and provide your results. Everyone can see and modify your analysis. Using this technology the provenance of the results is clear. The data, the analysis, and the results are all fully transparent and auditable.

You can see some examples here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stikir.com/index.php/GHCN_Climate_Data_Sandbox&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GHCN_Climate_Data_Sandbox&lt;/a&gt;

If you press the &quot;edit&quot; button on the page, it should make sense how the tool can be used.

The sample analyses are not particularly clever, but are provided to illustrate the functionality. I&#039;ll happily lend a hand to people wanting to publish any more substantial analysis.

The GHCN v2 temperature and precipitation data has been made available, as well as some Energy Information Administration data on carbon emissions.  Steve, please let me know if this collated GISS data is in the public domain. If so, I&#039;ll upload it to the site, along with any other data sets this community might be interested in.

Regards,
Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve and group,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve developed an R resource on <a href="http://www.stikir.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.stikir.com</a>.  It should be useful for those of you having trouble installing R, finding it difficult to climb the learning curve, or having problems accessing or using the large climate datasets.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a wiki site where you can enter R scripts.  The server will run it and provide your results. Everyone can see and modify your analysis. Using this technology the provenance of the results is clear. The data, the analysis, and the results are all fully transparent and auditable.</p>
<p>You can see some examples here:<br />
<a href="http://www.stikir.com/index.php/GHCN_Climate_Data_Sandbox" rel="nofollow">GHCN_Climate_Data_Sandbox</a></p>
<p>If you press the &#8220;edit&#8221; button on the page, it should make sense how the tool can be used.</p>
<p>The sample analyses are not particularly clever, but are provided to illustrate the functionality. I&#8217;ll happily lend a hand to people wanting to publish any more substantial analysis.</p>
<p>The GHCN v2 temperature and precipitation data has been made available, as well as some Energy Information Administration data on carbon emissions.  Steve, please let me know if this collated GISS data is in the public domain. If so, I&#8217;ll upload it to the site, along with any other data sets this community might be interested in.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101193</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 13..

 Did you try here?

 http://www.maths.bris.ac.uk/~maman/computerstuff/Rhelp/Rpackages.html

 http://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~wand/webcpdg/rpack.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 13..</p>
<p> Did you try here?</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.maths.bris.ac.uk/~maman/computerstuff/Rhelp/Rpackages.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.maths.bris.ac.uk/~maman/computerstuff/Rhelp/Rpackages.html</a></p>
<p> <a href="http://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~wand/webcpdg/rpack.html" rel="nofollow">http://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~wand/webcpdg/rpack.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 4.

 TAC thanks that worked for me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 4.</p>
<p> TAC thanks that worked for me</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101191</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that NOAA uses USHCN with some sort of regional weighting. To add to the brew there is USHCN version 1 and USHCN version 2( scheduled for release in July 2007 but still not released other than press release results).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that NOAA uses USHCN with some sort of regional weighting. To add to the brew there is USHCN version 1 and USHCN version 2( scheduled for release in July 2007 but still not released other than press release results).</p>
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		<title>By: Mhaze</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mhaze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE #1

Worked for me using a tablet computer, quite a surprise, also XP 64 bit.

I suggest go back and review R documentation, pick the section dealing with grammer and syntax and then watch proper use of quotes, parenthesis, brackets, having a reference as to what Should Be Correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE #1</p>
<p>Worked for me using a tablet computer, quite a surprise, also XP 64 bit.</p>
<p>I suggest go back and review R documentation, pick the section dealing with grammer and syntax and then watch proper use of quotes, parenthesis, brackets, having a reference as to what Should Be Correct.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 16 Joel.

 If you didnt grow up in Unix, Yacc, perl, C, and Vi, then
 I suspect R might be a steep ass hill to climb.


 I&#039;m stuggling and I&#039;ve done this crap before.
 However, I had a lobotomy when I left engineering.
 It was required as part  of the promotion  package.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 16 Joel.</p>
<p> If you didnt grow up in Unix, Yacc, perl, C, and Vi, then<br />
 I suspect R might be a steep ass hill to climb.</p>
<p> I&#8217;m stuggling and I&#8217;ve done this crap before.<br />
 However, I had a lobotomy when I left engineering.<br />
 It was required as part  of the promotion  package.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101188</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 13.

 SteveMC..
 I&#039;m assuming you have hit this page

 http://developer.r-project.org/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 13.</p>
<p> SteveMC..<br />
 I&#8217;m assuming you have hit this page</p>
<p> <a href="http://developer.r-project.org/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.r-project.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101187</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve, sorry.  One last question.

Which source of data is &#039;considered&#039; to be the authoritative source when describing US temperatures - GISS or NCDC, I guess that would mean either NASA or the National Climatic Data Center?  Sorry if I may seem a little thick, but I understand that NCDC still clings to the old saws about the last decade being the warmest years and that they haven&#039;t accepted Hansen&#039;s corrections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, sorry.  One last question.</p>
<p>Which source of data is &#8216;considered&#8217; to be the authoritative source when describing US temperatures &#8211; GISS or NCDC, I guess that would mean either NASA or the National Climatic Data Center?  Sorry if I may seem a little thick, but I understand that NCDC still clings to the old saws about the last decade being the warmest years and that they haven&#8217;t accepted Hansen&#8217;s corrections.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/08/23/collated-giss-versions-online/#comment-101186</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: #19

Thanks Steve.  So Hansen&#039;s data is not used by GHCN although he uses their data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #19</p>
<p>Thanks Steve.  So Hansen&#8217;s data is not used by GHCN although he uses their data.</p>
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