Comments on: Hansen's Station Lists http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/ by Steve McIntyre Fri, 24 May 2013 23:32:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104503 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:08:10 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104503 #!6. Good spotting, as usual.

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104502 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:43:29 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104502 Sorry Steve, I have no answers for your questions. Maybe they are just left over from something they thought they might use. I did find out where the MCDW IDs come from. So I might as well put it up.

MCDW.tbl file IDs(left column) are a combination of the CountryCode and IndexNbr found in this tab file.
ftp://ftp.wmo.int/wmo-ddbs/Pub9volA070907.flatfile

Here is the file layout.
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/ois/volume-a/9ALayoutGuide9805.html

Here is the Code Table used.
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/ois/volume-a/9ACodeTables9805.html

]]> By: Steve McIntyre http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104501 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:38:58 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104501 #13, I located many of the same places where one could track down numbers – but that doesn’t explain (1) why these id numbers materialize in HAnsen’s program? 2) how HAnsen’s program recognizes them 3) if they collected theIDs through manual trawling through the literature, that should be in a manual; 4) why there stations out of the population?

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104500 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:31:23 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104500 I found a comprehensive text file of WBAN stations.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/inventories/WBAN.TXT

Here is the file to explain the format.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/inventories/WBAN-FMT.TXT

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104499 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:39:03 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104499 Steve,
The SumofDay.tbl file left-hand column contains Weather Bureau, Army, Navy WBAN ID numbers. An XLS file can be found half way down this page. http://mi3.ncdc.noaa.gov/mi3_reports
Haven’t located any other format.

I found files listing all the IDs for the middle column that don’t match GHCN v2.temperature.inv.txt or Giss station_list.txt. I came up with 40 of them. I’m listing them below by the file in which they were found. Many of them seem to match other locations, but the IDs are slightly different. Haven’t located any data files for them though.

http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/climvis/ghcn/ATL-OCEAN/TEMP.ATL-OCEAN.INV
13601 42278016000 1
11630 42178535003 0
11641 42178526000 1
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/climvis/ghcn/IND-OCEAN/TEMP.IND-OCEAN.INV
70701 14661967000 1
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/climvis/ghcn/PAC-OCEAN/TEMP.PAC-OCEAN.INV
40309 51691408000 1
40504 51691348000 1
40505 51691334000 0
40710 51691376000 0
40604 51691366000 1
41406 51691212000 1
22701 51691066000 1
41606 51691245000 0
41415 51691217000 0
21504 51991285000 0
22514 51991178002 0
22519 51991176001 0
22516 51991190000 0
22521 51991182000 0
61705 51691765000 0
40308 51691413000 1
22536 51991165000 0
22501 51991162001 0
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/climvis/ghcn/US/TEMP.FLORIDA.INV
13889 42572206004 3
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/climvis/ghcn/v2.comp.srt
94850 42572743006 2
13739 42572408009 1
93721 42572406004 0
14895 42572521007 0
14821 42572428002 0
12960 42572243004 0
24233 42572793005 0
13891 42572334009 1
93134 42572297005 3
14745 42572605003 0
14923 42572544007 0
14847 42572734003 0
14840 42572636002 0
94846 42572530003 0
14852 42572525003 0
94847 42572537005 1
14848 42572535004 0

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104498 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:16:49 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104498 I believe the DatSav3 and WMO numbers are the same.

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104497 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:11:03 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104497 Here is that same GSOD file in xls format ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/gsod/ish-history.xls

]]> By: Bob Koss http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104496 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:08:21 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104496 Here is a list of IDs for Global Summary of the Day stations.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/gsod/ish-history.txt

It cross references Air Force DatSav3 station numbers with WBAN station numbers if one exists.

Here is a list of the two letter country codes that goes with it.
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/gsod/country-list.txt

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104495 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:15:56 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104495 Forgot the link.

]]> By: EW http://climateaudit.org/2007/09/09/hansens-station-lists/#comment-104494 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:14:31 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2034#comment-104494 I wonder if the Czech station 11438 is in the dataset and if it is combined. If you look at Sinan Unur’s page, there are in fact two different places under the same WMO No.

The “historical” Schossl village (Strelna in Czech) with data from 19th century located at
50°39’58.49″N,13°44’55.59″E

However, the present 11438 is situated at the coal power plant Tusimice, which is here:
50°23’9.57″N,13°20’4.56″E

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