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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Surface Stations &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-345308</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surface Stations &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I had done my own initial assessment of this a few years ago, I had used TOBS versions and am annoyed with myself for missing this. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I had done my own initial assessment of this a few years ago, I had used TOBS versions and am annoyed with myself for missing this. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cool it Bozos: Sid Harth &#171; News, Views and Reviews: Sid Harth</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-236206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cool it Bozos: Sid Harth &#171; News, Views and Reviews: Sid Harth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] McIntyre, Steve (October 4, 2007). &#8220;Gridding from CRN1-2&#8243;. Climate Audit. http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2145. Retrieved [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McIntyre, Steve (October 4, 2007). &#8220;Gridding from CRN1-2&#8243;. Climate Audit. <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2145" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2145</a>. Retrieved [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#105. Analysis of ROW station data has been barely scratched.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#105. Analysis of ROW station data has been barely scratched.</p>
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		<title>By: Conard</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2145#comment-151591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;94&lt;/a&gt;

Like JohnV I was interested in the Hansen reverse-engineering project and thought that this area (software development) might be where I could contribute.  In this vein I have the following questions:

1) Is there work than can be done by the non-statistician to enable the statistician to focus more on the design and interpretation of the analysis.  If there is this type of work, and there is a will to support it, then software &quot;friendlier&quot; than R may have advantages.

2) Are there tasks that occupy the time of principal researchers where purpose built, or integrated software can play a significant role?  For example I have seen many requests for data cut this way and that, data sets to be correlated, etc.

3) JohnV has certainly demonstrated that there is sufficient good will and expertise that can be harnessed towards these ends.

c]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2145#comment-151591" rel="nofollow">94</a></p>
<p>Like JohnV I was interested in the Hansen reverse-engineering project and thought that this area (software development) might be where I could contribute.  In this vein I have the following questions:</p>
<p>1) Is there work than can be done by the non-statistician to enable the statistician to focus more on the design and interpretation of the analysis.  If there is this type of work, and there is a will to support it, then software &#8220;friendlier&#8221; than R may have advantages.</p>
<p>2) Are there tasks that occupy the time of principal researchers where purpose built, or integrated software can play a significant role?  For example I have seen many requests for data cut this way and that, data sets to be correlated, etc.</p>
<p>3) JohnV has certainly demonstrated that there is sufficient good will and expertise that can be harnessed towards these ends.</p>
<p>c</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton B.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clayton B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Finally, if you want to develop something like OpenTemp, you can write it up and test it as an R function, and its principles, strengths, and weaknesses will be totally transparent&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please explain how this is different than other code?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Finally, if you want to develop something like OpenTemp, you can write it up and test it as an R function, and its principles, strengths, and weaknesses will be totally transparent</p></blockquote>
<p>Please explain how this is different than other code?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you go to the online script for this, I simplified the above calculations into a function that calculates the geog weighted average (using the akima smooth) from a set of USHCN identifications &lt;em&gt;index_good&lt;/em&gt; and a USHCN collated version. Doesn&#039;t get any simpler. You can adapt the script to get the contoured maps for individual years if you want.

&lt;blockquote&gt;recon.crn12=ushcn_wt(index_good,ushcn=ushcn.tobs)
	ts.plot(recon.crn12)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you go to the online script for this, I simplified the above calculations into a function that calculates the geog weighted average (using the akima smooth) from a set of USHCN identifications <em>index_good</em> and a USHCN collated version. Doesn&#8217;t get any simpler. You can adapt the script to get the contoured maps for individual years if you want.</p>
<blockquote><p>recon.crn12=ushcn_wt(index_good,ushcn=ushcn.tobs)<br />
	ts.plot(recon.crn12)
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		<title>By: stan palmer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stan palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 93:



&lt;blockquote&gt;I overlaid a five-year trailing average and a linear trend on the complete data set. Unforunately, I could not easily do a year-by-year difference because my digitized years did not always line up with the actual years. (Misalignment is visible in the graph above). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve always wondered what the trend line in such diagrams is supposed to mean. What phsyical interpretation should it be given? My own prejudice is that a trend line is useless. It presupposes a linear trend without justification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 93:</p>
<blockquote><p>I overlaid a five-year trailing average and a linear trend on the complete data set. Unforunately, I could not easily do a year-by-year difference because my digitized years did not always line up with the actual years. (Misalignment is visible in the graph above). </p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered what the trend line in such diagrams is supposed to mean. What phsyical interpretation should it be given? My own prejudice is that a trend line is useless. It presupposes a linear trend without justification.</p>
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		<title>By: JerryB</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JerryB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FWIW, a discussion of grid box sizes, and shapes, may be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/ushcn/gridbox.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, a discussion of grid box sizes, and shapes, may be found <a href="http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/ushcn/gridbox.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: John V.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John V.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#99 David Smith:
The problem with a small number of stations (and thus poor geographic coverage) was primarily an issue with *rural* CRN12 stations. There are quite a few total CRN12 stations.

I did some work with rural CRN12 vs rural CRN123 here:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2124#comment-147568

The coverage is much better when the CRN3 stations are included.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#99 David Smith:<br />
The problem with a small number of stations (and thus poor geographic coverage) was primarily an issue with *rural* CRN12 stations. There are quite a few total CRN12 stations.</p>
<p>I did some work with rural CRN12 vs rural CRN123 here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2124#comment-147568" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2124#comment-147568</a></p>
<p>The coverage is much better when the CRN3 stations are included.</p>
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		<title>By: David Smith</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/10/04/gridding-from-crn1-2/#comment-110148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could someone summarize how the problem of geographical distribution of CRN12 sites was addressed? Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone summarize how the problem of geographical distribution of CRN12 sites was addressed? Thanks</p>
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