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	<title>Comments on: Al Gore and Dr Thompson&#039;s Thermometer</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Denialism for Dummies &#124; The Policy Lass</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-322717</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Denialism for Dummies &#124; The Policy Lass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116266 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116266" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116266</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate : Call for Investigation into half million dollar Hockey-Stick grant &#124; Sex+Metropolis</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-223000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate : Call for Investigation into half million dollar Hockey-Stick grant &#124; Sex+Metropolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Al Gore&#8217;s hockey-stick graph that he claimed represented established science? In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Al Gore&#8217;s hockey-stick graph that he claimed represented established science? In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Glass</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Glass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Bastardi at Accuweather pointed out when Dark Night..err An Inconvenient Truth was first released that the hurricane spawned by the chimney is bass akwards, assuming it is supposed to represent a tropical cyclone in the Northern Hemisphere.

Is it possible that Gore is dyslexic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Bastardi at Accuweather pointed out when Dark Night..err An Inconvenient Truth was first released that the hurricane spawned by the chimney is bass akwards, assuming it is supposed to represent a tropical cyclone in the Northern Hemisphere.</p>
<p>Is it possible that Gore is dyslexic?</p>
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		<title>By: True followers of the Green faith, check this out &#171; Iain Hall</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[True followers of the Green faith, check this out &#171; Iain Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] hockey stick and refuted its critics. Except it wasn&#8217;t from ice cores at all, it was just a reprint of the hockey stick itself. Yes folks, he made it [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hockey stick and refuted its critics. Except it wasn&#8217;t from ice cores at all, it was just a reprint of the hockey stick itself. Yes folks, he made it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Philip_B</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip_B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#160, Plant material in glaciers is indeed compelling evidence of a much warmer past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#160, Plant material in glaciers is indeed compelling evidence of a much warmer past.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Orr</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Orr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve reviewed the paper: Short and Sweet!

Big problem for me: Where&#039;s the stinkin&#039; Hockey Stick? I need my Hockey Stick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve reviewed the paper: Short and Sweet!</p>
<p>Big problem for me: Where&#8217;s the stinkin&#8217; Hockey Stick? I need my Hockey Stick!</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 178. Not any more. Then I did. I was wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 178. Not any more. Then I did. I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: zechstein</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zechstein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting how Thompson discusses the 5000 year old plant debris. It might have been mentioned on this forum before - any plant debris found in glaciers obviously comes from a warmer past (higher tree-line)  Just date the debris.  There are  plant samples collected and dated by reserachers. Take for instance Jörin and Schlüchter&#039;s work in the Alps.  Good evidence of how fast glaciers (and temperatures) did change in the past.

here a link to two publications I found - one in English and one in German

http://achangeinthewind.typepad.com/achangeinthewind/2005/06/index.html
http://alpen.sac-cas.ch/html_d/archiv/2004/200406/ad_2004_06_12.pdf

here a quote for the panic crowd:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Our findings so far could also be seen as giving the exact opposite of a climatic all-clear. If we can prove that there were ancient forests where the glaciers are today, it means one thing in particular: that the climate can change more suddenly than we thought.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Steve: &lt;/strong&gt; I did a fairly careful look at Thompson&#039;s plants last summer. Check the Thompson category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how Thompson discusses the 5000 year old plant debris. It might have been mentioned on this forum before &#8211; any plant debris found in glaciers obviously comes from a warmer past (higher tree-line)  Just date the debris.  There are  plant samples collected and dated by reserachers. Take for instance Jörin and Schlüchter&#8217;s work in the Alps.  Good evidence of how fast glaciers (and temperatures) did change in the past.</p>
<p>here a link to two publications I found &#8211; one in English and one in German</p>
<p><a href="http://achangeinthewind.typepad.com/achangeinthewind/2005/06/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://achangeinthewind.typepad.com/achangeinthewind/2005/06/index.html</a><br />
<a href="http://alpen.sac-cas.ch/html_d/archiv/2004/200406/ad_2004_06_12.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://alpen.sac-cas.ch/html_d/archiv/2004/200406/ad_2004_06_12.pdf</a></p>
<p>here a quote for the panic crowd:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Our findings so far could also be seen as giving the exact opposite of a climatic all-clear. If we can prove that there were ancient forests where the glaciers are today, it means one thing in particular: that the climate can change more suddenly than we thought.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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Steve: </strong> I did a fairly careful look at Thompson&#8217;s plants last summer. Check the Thompson category.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean S</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#171: http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2304#comment-155519]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#171: <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2304#comment-155519" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2304#comment-155519</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/11/09/al-gore-and-dr-thompsons-thermometer/#comment-116388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Steven Mosher&#039;s hockeystick-carving homonid.

This needs some music.  Recommend &quot;Thus Sprach Zarathustra&quot;.

Also, isn&#039;t this hockeystick just a bit... well, primitive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Steven Mosher&#8217;s hockeystick-carving homonid.</p>
<p>This needs some music.  Recommend &#8220;Thus Sprach Zarathustra&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, isn&#8217;t this hockeystick just a bit&#8230; well, primitive?</p>
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