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	<title>Comments on: NASA Evasion of Quality Control Procedures</title>
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		<title>By: trackmanmouse</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-220573</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trackmanmouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] MilesGo With The Flowski Photo Blog: Pond Skimming at Kirkwood &#8230;2000 January &#124; News AskewNASA Evasion of Quality Control Procedures &#8221; Climate AuditWGN Weather Center Blog: January 2005 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MilesGo With The Flowski Photo Blog: Pond Skimming at Kirkwood &#8230;2000 January | News AskewNASA Evasion of Quality Control Procedures &#8221; Climate AuditWGN Weather Center Blog: January 2005 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Petty Petty Puzzler &#171; The Policy Lass</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-217514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Petty Petty Puzzler &#171; The Policy Lass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and regulations on the dissemination of NASA information – see a CA discussion from late 2007 here). Would Lights Out Upstairs – with its whiny and juvenile tone – comply with NASA peer review [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and regulations on the dissemination of NASA information – see a CA discussion from late 2007 here). Would Lights Out Upstairs – with its whiny and juvenile tone – comply with NASA peer review [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NASA: &#8220;Hide this after Jim checks it&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-217251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NASA: &#8220;Hide this after Jim checks it&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and regulations on the dissemination of NASA information &#8211; see a CA discussion from late 2007 here). Would Lights Out Upstairs &#8211; with its whiny and juvenile tone &#8211; comply with NASA peer [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and regulations on the dissemination of NASA information &#8211; see a CA discussion from late 2007 here). Would Lights Out Upstairs &#8211; with its whiny and juvenile tone &#8211; comply with NASA peer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This discussion has obviously gone off the rails. I&#039;ve deleted a number of posts and got tired. Steve Mosher is one of the few people who got my nuance. I&#039;ve got a few more thoughts but will close this thread for a while until I post those thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion has obviously gone off the rails. I&#8217;ve deleted a number of posts and got tired. Steve Mosher is one of the few people who got my nuance. I&#8217;ve got a few more thoughts but will close this thread for a while until I post those thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;m understanding Gunnar&#039;s position. If he&#039;s saying that Hansen has a fiefdom with supporters going all the way into congress (and probably the EPA), yes. That&#039;s obvious. Is it ok? No.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m understanding Gunnar&#8217;s position. If he&#8217;s saying that Hansen has a fiefdom with supporters going all the way into congress (and probably the EPA), yes. That&#8217;s obvious. Is it ok? No.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Cram</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Cram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gunnar re 243

I do not think OMB will have a similar attitude as NASA.  What they are doing is clearly against both the spirit and the letter of the regulation.  OMB cannot allow Gavin to get away with this and expect to keep other government employees on the straight and narrow.  It is that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunnar re 243</p>
<p>I do not think OMB will have a similar attitude as NASA.  What they are doing is clearly against both the spirit and the letter of the regulation.  OMB cannot allow Gavin to get away with this and expect to keep other government employees on the straight and narrow.  It is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[239, Don&#039;t worry. He&#039;s got his Zamboni parked right next to his snow blower.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>239, Don&#8217;t worry. He&#8217;s got his Zamboni parked right next to his snow blower.</p>
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		<title>By: welikerocks</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[welikerocks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a fantasy that NASA&#039;s been waiting for someone to say something.
Maybe they&#039;ve seen the data too.

Poor SteveM. Out having a nice day and coming back with this mess here!

Off to a nice early dinner and book shopping! And then football on tv Good eve all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a fantasy that NASA&#8217;s been waiting for someone to say something.<br />
Maybe they&#8217;ve seen the data too.</p>
<p>Poor SteveM. Out having a nice day and coming back with this mess here!</p>
<p>Off to a nice early dinner and book shopping! And then football on tv Good eve all!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Cram</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Cram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gunnar re:229

You referred to #192.  Just because RealClimate claims they work on the website on their personal time does not make it true.  We have Gavin&#039;s time stamped posts showing he is working on it during regular business hours.  The evidence against him is unshakable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunnar re:229</p>
<p>You referred to #192.  Just because RealClimate claims they work on the website on their personal time does not make it true.  We have Gavin&#8217;s time stamped posts showing he is working on it during regular business hours.  The evidence against him is unshakable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Cram</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2007/12/28/nasa-evasion-of-quality-control-procedures/#comment-128149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Cram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,
Thanks for another outstanding thread.  It is clear Gavin has violated NASA and other federal policies (OMB).  It appears Jim Hansen probably also has violated these policies in that he no doubt knows Gavin has been working on RealClimate during NASA business hours.

Some changes are definitely in order.  NASA should not link to RealClimate website as long as Gavin is a NASA employee.  Also, Gavin should not be allowed to post to RealClimate during work hours.  The right agency to look into this would be OMB.  While NASA could be self-regulating, I doubt that will happen.  OMB should be willing to ask Gavin and Jim Hansen some pointed questions about their knowledge of federal policies.  Gavin should be given the opportunity to play by the rules or find other employment.  Perhaps Gavin will decide to become a full-time employee of Environmental Media Services - the PR company that registered RealClimate.com.

Perhaps the best way to get OMB&#039;s attention on this matter is to have Senator Inhofe send them a letter.  Does any reader here live in the great state of Oklahoma?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
Thanks for another outstanding thread.  It is clear Gavin has violated NASA and other federal policies (OMB).  It appears Jim Hansen probably also has violated these policies in that he no doubt knows Gavin has been working on RealClimate during NASA business hours.</p>
<p>Some changes are definitely in order.  NASA should not link to RealClimate website as long as Gavin is a NASA employee.  Also, Gavin should not be allowed to post to RealClimate during work hours.  The right agency to look into this would be OMB.  While NASA could be self-regulating, I doubt that will happen.  OMB should be willing to ask Gavin and Jim Hansen some pointed questions about their knowledge of federal policies.  Gavin should be given the opportunity to play by the rules or find other employment.  Perhaps Gavin will decide to become a full-time employee of Environmental Media Services &#8211; the PR company that registered RealClimate.com.</p>
<p>Perhaps the best way to get OMB&#8217;s attention on this matter is to have Senator Inhofe send them a letter.  Does any reader here live in the great state of Oklahoma?</p>
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