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		<title>By: &#8220;Keith Should Say&#8230;&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-226827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;Keith Should Say&#8230;&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 22:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] had posted in January 2008 ( here here) on Holland&#8217;s efforts to that date. As a result, Holland forwarded me the Met Office’s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] had posted in January 2008 ( here here) on Holland&#8217;s efforts to that date. As a result, Holland forwarded me the Met Office’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rose on Fortress Met Office &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-220198</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rose on Fortress Met Office &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] accounts of the progress of the Met Office FOIs are here here here here [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Did IPCC Review Editor Mitchell Do His Job? &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-218407</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Did IPCC Review Editor Mitchell Do His Job? &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Holland&#8217;s request was noted up here; last year, we noted the appalling response by IPCC lead authors to, among other things, the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Holland&#8217;s request was noted up here; last year, we noted the appalling response by IPCC lead authors to, among other things, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Holland</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Holland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI, I have just been told that since early December WGII has &lt;a href=&quot;http://ensembles-eu.metoffice.com/IPCC/rev_archive/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;archived here &lt;/a&gt; the draft reports and reviewers comments. These do include the author&#039;s responses, but unless I&#039;ve missed it still no Review Editors&#039; reports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, I have just been told that since early December WGII has <a href="http://ensembles-eu.metoffice.com/IPCC/rev_archive/index.htm" rel="nofollow">archived here </a> the draft reports and reviewers comments. These do include the author&#8217;s responses, but unless I&#8217;ve missed it still no Review Editors&#8217; reports.</p>
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		<title>By: David Holland</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Holland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be of interest to note that our Dutch friends who run WGIII seem, at the first look, to have the most open approach to disclosure.  I do not know if they were pushed or, as I hope, have no intention to hide anything, but the drafts and reviewers comments can be accessed through the Archive link on their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnp.nl/ipcc/pages_media/homeWGIII.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;home page&lt;/a&gt;.

I have just looked briefly at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mnp.nl/ipcc/Archive/AR4FOD/ExpRevFOD/FODrev/FOD_AChapter1.doc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments&lt;/a&gt; on the first order draft of the first chapter which is has a very useful preface that confirms that all the material is in electronic form and that

&lt;blockquote&gt;The responsibility of a Review Editor is to see to it that all comments given in reviews is given appropriate consideration. This means that the acceptance or rejection of comments by the authors should be done on the basis of factual and scientific arguments, not on the basis of e.g. political or personal preferences.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After such a promising start it is a shame to find that they have not, so far as I can see, shown any of the authors responses to any of the thousands of reviewers comments.  Nor have they published the prescribed Review Editors reports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be of interest to note that our Dutch friends who run WGIII seem, at the first look, to have the most open approach to disclosure.  I do not know if they were pushed or, as I hope, have no intention to hide anything, but the drafts and reviewers comments can be accessed through the Archive link on their <a href="http://www.mnp.nl/ipcc/pages_media/homeWGIII.html" rel="nofollow">home page</a>.</p>
<p>I have just looked briefly at the <a href="http://www.mnp.nl/ipcc/Archive/AR4FOD/ExpRevFOD/FODrev/FOD_AChapter1.doc" rel="nofollow">comments</a> on the first order draft of the first chapter which is has a very useful preface that confirms that all the material is in electronic form and that</p>
<blockquote><p>The responsibility of a Review Editor is to see to it that all comments given in reviews is given appropriate consideration. This means that the acceptance or rejection of comments by the authors should be done on the basis of factual and scientific arguments, not on the basis of e.g. political or personal preferences.</p></blockquote>
<p>After such a promising start it is a shame to find that they have not, so far as I can see, shown any of the authors responses to any of the thousands of reviewers comments.  Nor have they published the prescribed Review Editors reports.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Davis</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I put in a request to NASA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put in a request to NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: David Holland</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Holland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The stuff we want is all electronic. They know that, we  know that, and the Information Commissioner and my MP will also know if it goes to appeal. Dr Mitchell could email his report to me in two minutes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stuff we want is all electronic. They know that, we  know that, and the Information Commissioner and my MP will also know if it goes to appeal. Dr Mitchell could email his report to me in two minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: woodentop</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131151</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[woodentop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, read the whole paragraph:



&lt;blockquote&gt;What does it cost?

Most requests are free. You might be asked to pay a small amount for making photocopies or postage.

&lt;strong&gt;If the public authority thinks that it will cost them more than £450 (or £600 for a request to central government) to find the information and prepare it for release, then they can turn down your request. They might ask you to narrow down your request by being more specific in the information you&#039;re looking for.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, read the whole paragraph:</p>
<blockquote><p>What does it cost?</p>
<p>Most requests are free. You might be asked to pay a small amount for making photocopies or postage.</p>
<p><strong>If the public authority thinks that it will cost them more than £450 (or £600 for a request to central government) to find the information and prepare it for release, then they can turn down your request. They might ask you to narrow down your request by being more specific in the information you&#8217;re looking for.</strong></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: David Holland</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Holland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The UK&#039;s FoI info is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/RightsAndResponsibilities/DG_4003239&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. It says there is no charge and it is open to anyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK&#8217;s FoI info is <a href="http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/RightsAndResponsibilities/DG_4003239" rel="nofollow">here</a>. It says there is no charge and it is open to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyA</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/09/review-editor-comments/#comment-131149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are various charges applicable to Government &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/FreedomofInformation_FreedomofInformation-Questionsandanswers&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FOI requests here in Australia&lt;/a&gt;. (A more cynical person would say that such fees work to &lt;em&gt;discourage&lt;/em&gt; FOI requests.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;How much will it cost me?
Application fees
There is an application fee of $30 for FOI requests.
There is a separate application fee of $40 for internal review of a decision.
Processing charges
The charge for locating documents is $15 per hour.
The charge for agencies&#039; decision-making and consultation time is $20 per hour.
There are charges in relation to the provision of access (eg: 10c per photocopy, $6.25 per half hour supervised inspection and special rates for special services such as tape transcription or computer output).
Requests for personal information may incur a maximum charge of two hours for locating documents and a further two hours for decision making time.
However, full rates for the provision of access apply.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are various charges applicable to Government <a href="http://www.ag.gov.au/www/agd/agd.nsf/Page/FreedomofInformation_FreedomofInformation-Questionsandanswers" rel="nofollow">FOI requests here in Australia</a>. (A more cynical person would say that such fees work to <em>discourage</em> FOI requests.)</p>
<blockquote><p>How much will it cost me?<br />
Application fees<br />
There is an application fee of $30 for FOI requests.<br />
There is a separate application fee of $40 for internal review of a decision.<br />
Processing charges<br />
The charge for locating documents is $15 per hour.<br />
The charge for agencies&#8217; decision-making and consultation time is $20 per hour.<br />
There are charges in relation to the provision of access (eg: 10c per photocopy, $6.25 per half hour supervised inspection and special rates for special services such as tape transcription or computer output).<br />
Requests for personal information may incur a maximum charge of two hours for locating documents and a further two hours for decision making time.<br />
However, full rates for the provision of access apply.</p></blockquote>
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