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	<title>Comments on: Gore Scientific &quot;Adviser&quot; says that he has no &quot;responsibility&quot; for AIT errors</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Mann on Irreproducible Results in Thompson (PNAS 2006) &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-327915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mann on Irreproducible Results in Thompson (PNAS 2006) &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In fact, Mann should know that Thompson&#039;s ice core data did not actually appear in Gore&#039;s AIT: The series Gore identified as &#8220;Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; was in fact Mann&#8217;s own Hockey Stick, spliced together with the recent instrumental record so as to make them appear to be a single series. See Al Gore and &#8220;Dr thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; #2 (CA 11/10/07). During the question period after an OSU seminar on Jan 11, 2008, Thompson, who had been an official Scientific Advisor on the AIT project, admitted this error. I then challenged Thompson to correct this error with a publicly accessible statement, but he still has not done so to the best of my knowledge. See &#8220;Gore Scientific &#8220;Adviser&#8221; says that he has &#8220;no responsibility&#8221; for AI.... [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In fact, Mann should know that Thompson&#039;s ice core data did not actually appear in Gore&#039;s AIT: The series Gore identified as &#8220;Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; was in fact Mann&#8217;s own Hockey Stick, spliced together with the recent instrumental record so as to make them appear to be a single series. See Al Gore and &#8220;Dr thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; #2 (CA 11/10/07). During the question period after an OSU seminar on Jan 11, 2008, Thompson, who had been an official Scientific Advisor on the AIT project, admitted this error. I then challenged Thompson to correct this error with a publicly accessible statement, but he still has not done so to the best of my knowledge. See &#8220;Gore Scientific &#8220;Adviser&#8221; says that he has &#8220;no responsibility&#8221; for AI&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Calibrating Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Z-Mometer &#171; Climate Audit [Welcome to our new home!]</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-207852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calibrating Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Z-Mometer &#171; Climate Audit [Welcome to our new home!]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of AIT&#8217;s Scientific Advisory Board, has made no effort to publicly correct the error. (See Gore Scientific &#8216;Advisor&#8217; says that he has no &#8216;responsibility&#8217; for AIT error....) With the simple trick of shading the space between the two lines and the horizontal axis with a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of AIT&#8217;s Scientific Advisory Board, has made no effort to publicly correct the error. (See Gore Scientific &#8216;Advisor&#8217; says that he has no &#8216;responsibility&#8217; for AIT error&#8230;.) With the simple trick of shading the space between the two lines and the horizontal axis with a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: güzel sözler</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[güzel sözler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thompson&#039;s Thermometer&quot; is not his seems to be no longer available at the link mentioned at #113, so there in fact is no record of this admission at the present time.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trguzelsozler.com&quot; title=&quot;güzel sözler&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;güzel sözler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guzelsozleroku.com&quot; title=&quot;güzel sözler&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;güzel sözler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yeniguzelsozler.com&quot; title=&quot;güzel sözler&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;güzel sözler&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sohbetodalaritr.com&quot; title=&quot;sohbet odaları&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sohbet odaları&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; is not his seems to be no longer available at the link mentioned at #113, so there in fact is no record of this admission at the present time.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.trguzelsozler.com" title="güzel sözler" rel="nofollow">güzel sözler</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.sohbetodalaritr.com" title="sohbet odaları" rel="nofollow">sohbet odaları</a></p>
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		<title>By: çok güzel hareketler bunlar</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[çok güzel hareketler bunlar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The archiving lapse has been ongoing so long, it would take something seismic (ie, loss of funding) to get him to change his behavior, I expect. Or a change of heart? Stranger things have happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The archiving lapse has been ongoing so long, it would take something seismic (ie, loss of funding) to get him to change his behavior, I expect. Or a change of heart? Stranger things have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Hu McCulloch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hu McCulloch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 113, 114, 118, the video of Thompson admitting that what Gore called &quot;Dr. Thompson&#039;s Thermometer&quot; is not his seems to be no longer available at the link mentioned at #113, so there in fact is no record of this admission at the present time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 113, 114, 118, the video of Thompson admitting that what Gore called &#8220;Dr. Thompson&#8217;s Thermometer&#8221; is not his seems to be no longer available at the link mentioned at #113, so there in fact is no record of this admission at the present time.</p>
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		<title>By: D Johnson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131769</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[henry,
But it this case we know it really wasn&#039;t Thompson&#039;s work, it was Mann&#039;s discredited work represented by Gore as Thompson&#039;s work. Nevertheless, Thompson should archive his data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>henry,<br />
But it this case we know it really wasn&#8217;t Thompson&#8217;s work, it was Mann&#8217;s discredited work represented by Gore as Thompson&#8217;s work. Nevertheless, Thompson should archive his data.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I wasn&#039;t being snipped at Tamino&#039;s, I&#039;d post a reply as follows:

Comment [Response: Are you talking about the MBH98 hockey stick, or hockey sticks in general? Didn&#039;t “An Inconvenient Truth” get its hockey stick from the ice core studies of Thompson et al.? ….]

Reply:  We really don&#039;t know if it&#039;s Thompson&#039;s work or not, given his failure to archive his work...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wasn&#8217;t being snipped at Tamino&#8217;s, I&#8217;d post a reply as follows:</p>
<p>Comment [Response: Are you talking about the MBH98 hockey stick, or hockey sticks in general? Didn't “An Inconvenient Truth” get its hockey stick from the ice core studies of Thompson et al.? ….]</p>
<p>Reply:  We really don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s Thompson&#8217;s work or not, given his failure to archive his work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spence_UK</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spence_UK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So let me get this straight, that means Tamino is actually less sharp than Lambert?

Ouch.  I wouldn&#039;t want to put that on my CV.

I&#039;ve been tempted to post over there but weighing into that debate looks nauseating.  There is no authority on earth that could persuade them that a small change in data samples causing not only a change in conclusions, but a complete loss of significance in the one and only verification statistic that can be made to work, does not &quot;recover&quot; robustness, it reinforces a lack of robustness.

It is remarkable the story you can spin to people who don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; statistics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me get this straight, that means Tamino is actually less sharp than Lambert?</p>
<p>Ouch.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to put that on my CV.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been tempted to post over there but weighing into that debate looks nauseating.  There is no authority on earth that could persuade them that a small change in data samples causing not only a change in conclusions, but a complete loss of significance in the one and only verification statistic that can be made to work, does not &#8220;recover&#8221; robustness, it reinforces a lack of robustness.</p>
<p>It is remarkable the story you can spin to people who don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Machnee</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Machnee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re #118 - And the sheep in that pasture are unbelievable!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #118 &#8211; And the sheep in that pasture are unbelievable!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/01/13/sticking-thermometers-in-places-they-dont-belong/#comment-131765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr Thompson&#039;s Thermometer strikes again. This time it has tricked the ever unwary Tamino, who &lt;a href=&quot;http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/open-thread-4/#comment-16248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rebukes a reader&lt;/a&gt; who said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It is a little hard to believe that something with no bearing on the issue should have featured so prominently in both ‘An Inconvenient Truth&#039; and in the IPCC reports.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

as follows:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Response: Are you talking about the MBH98 hockey stick, or hockey sticks in general? Didn&#039;t “An Inconvenient Truth” get its hockey stick from the ice core studies of Thompson et al.? ....
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh, no.  &quot;Dr Thompson&#039;s thermometer&quot; is none other than the Mann hockey stick spliced with the Jones instrumental record.

Thompson&#039;s known about the error for a very long time and claims to have notified Gore. Yet the error remains uncorrected, misleading the general public and now Tamino.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Thompson&#8217;s Thermometer strikes again. This time it has tricked the ever unwary Tamino, who <a href="http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/open-thread-4/#comment-16248" rel="nofollow">rebukes a reader</a> who said:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is a little hard to believe that something with no bearing on the issue should have featured so prominently in both ‘An Inconvenient Truth&#8217; and in the IPCC reports.</p></blockquote>
<p>as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Response: Are you talking about the MBH98 hockey stick, or hockey sticks in general? Didn&#8217;t “An Inconvenient Truth” get its hockey stick from the ice core studies of Thompson et al.? &#8230;.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, no.  &#8220;Dr Thompson&#8217;s thermometer&#8221; is none other than the Mann hockey stick spliced with the Jones instrumental record.</p>
<p>Thompson&#8217;s known about the error for a very long time and claims to have notified Gore. Yet the error remains uncorrected, misleading the general public and now Tamino.</p>
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