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	<title>Comments on: Curry Reviews Jablonowski and Williamson</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; Curry: The Finale</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-229100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; Curry: The Finale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] regards to what is anti-science, here is a quiz.  Read blog thread A and blog thread B.  Which thread is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] regards to what is anti-science, here is a quiz.  Read blog thread A and blog thread B.  Which thread is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s have a little time out on this. I&#039;ll re-open the thread in a few days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s have a little time out on this. I&#8217;ll re-open the thread in a few days.</p>
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		<title>By: John Creighton</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Creighton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#227 Jerry, required or If you have any references I would appreciate you posting them so that in the future when hopefully I have more background on this stuff I can better investigate your concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#227 Jerry, required or If you have any references I would appreciate you posting them so that in the future when hopefully I have more background on this stuff I can better investigate your concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John (#280),

The book is

Initial-Boundary Value Problems and the Navier-Stokes Equations
Heinz-Otto Kreiss and Jens Lorenz
Academic Press

Note that the credentials of Professor Kreiss are well known in both the theoretical study of PDE&#039;s and in numerical analysis. It was my privilege to have him as a mentor.

Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John (#280),</p>
<p>The book is</p>
<p>Initial-Boundary Value Problems and the Navier-Stokes Equations<br />
Heinz-Otto Kreiss and Jens Lorenz<br />
Academic Press</p>
<p>Note that the credentials of Professor Kreiss are well known in both the theoretical study of PDE&#8217;s and in numerical analysis. It was my privilege to have him as a mentor.</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All,

I have made my case quite clear. If one reads my comments and looks at the QJRMS manuscript as I have indicated, one can see there are serious problems with the continuum equations and their numerical approximations. (dynamical cores). No amount of wordsmithing can overcome these problems.

I will come back to this thread to answer a few more questions. But the mathematical analysis of the frequencies, the demonstrations of the
problems with the continuum systems using convergent numerical solutions
on the Exponential thread, and the dynamical core manuscript itself
should make the issues very clear.

Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,</p>
<p>I have made my case quite clear. If one reads my comments and looks at the QJRMS manuscript as I have indicated, one can see there are serious problems with the continuum equations and their numerical approximations. (dynamical cores). No amount of wordsmithing can overcome these problems.</p>
<p>I will come back to this thread to answer a few more questions. But the mathematical analysis of the frequencies, the demonstrations of the<br />
problems with the continuum systems using convergent numerical solutions<br />
on the Exponential thread, and the dynamical core manuscript itself<br />
should make the issues very clear.</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lucia,

A referee is not required when the facts are presented openly.
I await your answers to the specific questions that you said I did not
state specifically ( only all thru this thread and the Exponential Growth in Physical Systems threads).

Jerry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucia,</p>
<p>A referee is not required when the facts are presented openly.<br />
I await your answers to the specific questions that you said I did not<br />
state specifically ( only all thru this thread and the Exponential Growth in Physical Systems threads).</p>
<p>Jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Browning</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerald Browning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith Curry,

please answer the very specific mathematical questions I asked you  ....

1) Compute the frequencies or read our reference on the computation of frequencies for a realistic atmospheric state.

2) What is the impact of those complex frequencies on the hydrostatic and nonhydrostatic continuum equations.

3) What is the impact of those complex frequencies on a numerical model of the atmosphere.

2) Clearly state the impact of an incorrect spatial spectrum due to incorrect dissipative operators on the tuning that is required to make the spatial spectrum appear realistic.

3) The atmosphere receives information from above any artificial lid in a numerical model. How is that info transmitted when the numerical model has an artificial boundary at a predetermined height, i.e. there is no flow of information from above the artificial lid.

4) The equations of motion change nature at higher altitudes, e.g. they change to the plasma equations. Is this change taken into account.

...
Jerry
&lt;strong&gt;
SM-&lt;/strong&gt; Jerry, please be more moderate in your tone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith Curry,</p>
<p>please answer the very specific mathematical questions I asked you  &#8230;.</p>
<p>1) Compute the frequencies or read our reference on the computation of frequencies for a realistic atmospheric state.</p>
<p>2) What is the impact of those complex frequencies on the hydrostatic and nonhydrostatic continuum equations.</p>
<p>3) What is the impact of those complex frequencies on a numerical model of the atmosphere.</p>
<p>2) Clearly state the impact of an incorrect spatial spectrum due to incorrect dissipative operators on the tuning that is required to make the spatial spectrum appear realistic.</p>
<p>3) The atmosphere receives information from above any artificial lid in a numerical model. How is that info transmitted when the numerical model has an artificial boundary at a predetermined height, i.e. there is no flow of information from above the artificial lid.</p>
<p>4) The equations of motion change nature at higher altitudes, e.g. they change to the plasma equations. Is this change taken into account.</p>
<p>&#8230;<br />
Jerry<br />
<strong><br />
SM-</strong> Jerry, please be more moderate in your tone.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lucia, you must see the connection between knitting and N-S]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucia, you must see the connection between knitting and N-S</p>
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		<title>By: lucia</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lucia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A book ever avid knitter stocks on her shelf. . .


hmmm preview doesn&#039;t show image?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book ever avid knitter stocks on her shelf. . .</p>
<p>hmmm preview doesn&#8217;t show image?</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/02/03/curry-reviews-jablonski-and-williamson/#comment-135384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike B.

  She floats like a butterly but stings like a hornet. Lucky I had side bets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike B.</p>
<p>  She floats like a butterly but stings like a hornet. Lucky I had side bets.</p>
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