Comments on: L.A. Confidential

By: HMcCard

HMcCard — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:55:16 +0000

Re: 11 and 12

Barry and David,

Surely our ancesters were able to read their instruments. So … are adjustments being made to correct instrumentation errors? Or … perhaps it is easier to change old data because many of the oldtimers aren’t around to protest someone changing their data.

By: BarryW

BarryW — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:18:35 +0000

Re 64

Check the authors: Dr. Keith R. Briffa, Dr. Phil D. Jones, and Dr. Michael E. Mann of hockey stick fame, all who have been the subject of numerous posts and critiques. How they get away with it is that they’re the government and the hockey stick supports the present dogma so there for it must be true.

By: Papertiger

Papertiger — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:48:27 +0000

Somebody help me out here. On this government website they are claiming that the medieval warm period never existed and that the world actually cooled off between the years 900 and 1400. And they are using the hockeystick as their one and only form of evidence to support this fraud. How do they get away with this?

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:51:36 +0000

Lights = zero. Irrigation pumps, Holt tractors, air movers, roads, corrugated metal out buildings etc = ?

By: Hu McCulloch

Hu McCulloch — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:51:05 +0000

George M, #60, says,

I had not previously examined the Lemon Cove photos. As with several other rain gauge sightings, I love the gauge right next to the Stevenson Screen…

Maybe that’s why it’s called a Screen — it’s supposed to screen the rain gauge from the rain??

By: Mike C

Mike C — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:24:28 +0000

Lemon Cove is also a NASA Lights = zero site so you know it influences every temperature station within several hundred kilometers.

By: George M

George M — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:14:50 +0000

I had not previously examined the Lemon Cove photos. As with several other rain gauge sightings, I love the gauge right next to the Stevenson Screen, and under the night light tower. A lot of water collects on and falls from a tower like that in unpredicatble ways during any precipitation.
Say, how about coring those lemon trees and calibrating them for temperature? Too short lived, you say? No problem, the computer can compensate.

By: SteveSadlov

SteveSadlov — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:47:38 +0000

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27779

Yep, a typical thermal belt setting. Time to make some lemonade.

By: Sam Urbinto

Sam Urbinto — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:36:13 +0000

Hans; I mean a +/- 1 C margin of error after intercomparison, or if the network isn’t sufficiently dense, or if the biases are greater than expected, etc.

By: Anthony Watts

Anthony Watts — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:24:38 +0000

RE56 Lemon Cove. It’s a giant mega-sized lemon farm covering a few thousands of acres. There’s enough pucker there to match all the sourness of RC, Rabbet, and Tamino combined.

See the pix here:

http://gallery.surfacestations.org/main.php?g2_itemId=654

The USHCN station is right in the middle of all the ag operations, plus very wind sheltered. Me thinks the temp record might be slightly sour as a result.