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	<title>Comments on: Where did IPCC 1990 Figure 7c Come From?</title>
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	<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/</link>
	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: L&#8217;Optimum Médiéval et le Petit Age Glaciaire retrouvés (une fois de plus) :: RESILIENCETV</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-367697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L&#8217;Optimum Médiéval et le Petit Age Glaciaire retrouvés (une fois de plus) :: RESILIENCETV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] de cette courbe avant sa publication par le GIEC. Il a r&#233;dig&#233;, &#224; mon avis, le texte le plus complet sur cette [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] de cette courbe avant sa publication par le GIEC. Il a r&eacute;dig&eacute;, &agrave; mon avis, le texte le plus complet sur cette [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on the Iconography of IPCC 1990 Figure 7 &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-358752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More on the Iconography of IPCC 1990 Figure 7 &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 19:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] one of the comments, reader Brent made an inspired find that placed the iconography in a new light (one that remains [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of the comments, reader Brent made an inspired find that placed the iconography in a new light (one that remains [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GWPF &#38; The Hockey Stick Curve @ Jo Abbess</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-331019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWPF &#38; The Hockey Stick Curve @ Jo Abbess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 08:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Earlier years in the reconstruction were quite speculative in nature. (Lamb&#039;s original graph is accessible here. Also Box 6.4 here for IPCC comment on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Earlier years in the reconstruction were quite speculative in nature. (Lamb&#039;s original graph is accessible here. Also Box 6.4 here for IPCC comment on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rw</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-322304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the 1995 edition of his Climate, History and the Modern World, Lamb expressed doubts that the MWP was world-wide. Specifically, it did not seem to have occurred in the Far East. On the other hand, he did think that the LIA was a global phenomenon. Subsequent work that I&#039;ve looked at (based on references cited in the 2011 NIPCC report) indicate that Lamb was being too cautious, since there is clear evidence now from China (and elsewhere) for higher temperatures in the early Medieval period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1995 edition of his Climate, History and the Modern World, Lamb expressed doubts that the MWP was world-wide. Specifically, it did not seem to have occurred in the Far East. On the other hand, he did think that the LIA was a global phenomenon. Subsequent work that I&#8217;ve looked at (based on references cited in the 2011 NIPCC report) indicate that Lamb was being too cautious, since there is clear evidence now from China (and elsewhere) for higher temperatures in the early Medieval period.</p>
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		<title>By: The MWP Was Just As Warm In England &#124; Real Science</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-310767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The MWP Was Just As Warm In England &#124; Real Science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in 1965. I added recent CET in red.H. H. LAMB, 1965, THE EARLY MEDIEVAL WARM EPOCH AND ITS SEQUELhttp://climateaudit.org/&#160;google_ad_client = &quot;ca-pub-9698399351961651&quot;; /* Real-Science.com Post Footer Text */ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 1965. I added recent CET in red.H. H. LAMB, 1965, THE EARLY MEDIEVAL WARM EPOCH AND ITS SEQUELhttp://climateaudit.org/&nbsp;google_ad_client = &quot;ca-pub-9698399351961651&quot;; /* Real-Science.com Post Footer Text */ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] question.  Climate Change, IPCC 1990, page 202.  For a more detailed explanation of the graph, see Where did IPCC 1990 Figure 7c Come From?    __________________ I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] question.  Climate Change, IPCC 1990, page 202.  For a more detailed explanation of the graph, see Where did IPCC 1990 Figure 7c Come From?    __________________ I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-251338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; b. show the raw annual data through 2006 so readers can see how
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the most recent values compare w/ the MWP peak.

Most recent raw values added:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/mr2010.png&quot; alt=&quot;i1&quot; /&gt;

http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/mr2010.png


&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; a. show the full smoothed curve without removing end data (I
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; don’t see any objective justification for doing that) or

lowpassmin.m goes a bit wild if end data is not removed:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/lpcet.png&quot; alt=&quot;i2&quot; /&gt;

http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/lpcet.png


code:
&lt;em&gt;
load c2010.dat % http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/
c=c2010(:,end);
X=NaN(352,252);
for i=101:352
    x=lowpassmin(c(1:i),1/50); % smooth from year c2010(1,1) to c2010(i,1)
    X(1:i,i-100)=x;
end

close all
figure
plot(c2010(:,1),X)  % plot all smooths
hold on
kk=plot(c2010(:,1),X(:,end),&#039;k&#039;) % plot 1659 to 2010 smooth in bold
set(kk,&#039;LineWidth&#039;,3)
&lt;/em&gt;

To see why this happens, see comments in http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/02/uc-on-mann-smoothing/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; b. show the raw annual data through 2006 so readers can see how<br />
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the most recent values compare w/ the MWP peak.</p>
<p>Most recent raw values added:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/mr2010.png" alt="i1" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/mr2010.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/mr2010.png</a></p>
<p>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; a. show the full smoothed curve without removing end data (I<br />
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; don’t see any objective justification for doing that) or</p>
<p>lowpassmin.m goes a bit wild if end data is not removed:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/lpcet.png" alt="i2" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/lpcet.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/lpcet.png</a></p>
<p>code:<br />
<em><br />
load c2010.dat % <a href="http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/" rel="nofollow">http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/</a><br />
c=c2010(:,end);<br />
X=NaN(352,252);<br />
for i=101:352<br />
    x=lowpassmin(c(1:i),1/50); % smooth from year c2010(1,1) to c2010(i,1)<br />
    X(1:i,i-100)=x;<br />
end</p>
<p>close all<br />
figure<br />
plot(c2010(:,1),X)  % plot all smooths<br />
hold on<br />
kk=plot(c2010(:,1),X(:,end),&#8217;k') % plot 1659 to 2010 smooth in bold<br />
set(kk,&#8217;LineWidth&#8217;,3)<br />
</em></p>
<p>To see why this happens, see comments in <a href="http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/02/uc-on-mann-smoothing/" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/02/uc-on-mann-smoothing/</a></p>
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		<title>By: UC</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-251183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still missing, 
 
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7.png&quot; alt=&quot;F1&quot; /&gt; 
 
http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7.png

 Tried to update this with new HadCET ( http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/ ), but it gets too cold:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7_10.png&quot; alt=&quot;f2&quot; /&gt; 
 
http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7_10.png
  
 Is &quot;minimum roughness&quot; dead now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still missing, </p>
<p><img src="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7.png" alt="F1" /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7.png</a></p>
<p> Tried to update this with new HadCET ( <a href="http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/" rel="nofollow">http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcet/</a> ), but it gets too cold:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7_10.png" alt="f2" /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7_10.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.info/data/uc/fig7_10.png</a></p>
<p> Is &#8220;minimum roughness&#8221; dead now?</p>
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		<title>By: Johann Hari: How much proof do the global warming deniers need?</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-240579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johann Hari: How much proof do the global warming deniers need?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 07:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Trouet et al 2009: &#8220;Scuppering the Deniers&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/05/09/where-did-ipcc-1990-figure-7c-come-from-httpwwwclimateauditorgp3072previewtrue/#comment-237074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trouet et al 2009: &#8220;Scuppering the Deniers&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] readers of the famous IPCC temperature curve (derived from Lamb) showing the MWP. See discussion at CA here  which has many relevant figures. Here is Lamb 1965 Figure 4 showing the precipitation [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] readers of the famous IPCC temperature curve (derived from Lamb) showing the MWP. See discussion at CA here  which has many relevant figures. Here is Lamb 1965 Figure 4 showing the precipitation [...]</p>
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