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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;PR Challenge&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: old construction worker</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old construction worker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a copy of te letter I have sent to one of my Senator.
To:
Senator George Voinovich
524 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510

Dear Sir;
	You may be aware of the PR Challenge or Paleoclimate Reconstruction Challenge. http://www.pages.unibe.ch/science/prchallenge/index.html  Many scientists of this group are the same “scientists” which give us the famous “Hockey Stick” reconstruction of our past climate.    I should not have to remind you of the boondoggle surrounding the hockey stick stating with “We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period to any input number resulted in the same graph being reconstructed.

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.

I demand as a tax payer and citizen that:
A) An independent audit done to validate and verify all works from Paleoclimate Reconstruction Challenge before any government body and/or government employee can refer to and/or use in full and/or in part for any government function including the IPCC.
B) If any government funding is used in all and/or part of this reconstruction, the reconstruction shall be subjected to the principle of forecasting as described in Principles of Forecasting handbook.
C) If any government funding is used in all or part of this reconstruction, the reconstruction shall be subjected to the Data Quality Act.
D) If scientist and/or institution that does not comply with independent audit and/or principle of forecasting and/or Data Quality Act shall have his and/or hers and/or institution government funding suspended immediately.

Thank you,
Sincerely,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a copy of te letter I have sent to one of my Senator.<br />
To:<br />
Senator George Voinovich<br />
524 Hart Senate Office Building<br />
Washington, DC 20510</p>
<p>Dear Sir;<br />
	You may be aware of the PR Challenge or Paleoclimate Reconstruction Challenge. <a href="http://www.pages.unibe.ch/science/prchallenge/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pages.unibe.ch/science/prchallenge/index.html</a>  Many scientists of this group are the same “scientists” which give us the famous “Hockey Stick” reconstruction of our past climate.    I should not have to remind you of the boondoggle surrounding the hockey stick stating with “We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period to any input number resulted in the same graph being reconstructed.</p>
<p>Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.</p>
<p>I demand as a tax payer and citizen that:<br />
A) An independent audit done to validate and verify all works from Paleoclimate Reconstruction Challenge before any government body and/or government employee can refer to and/or use in full and/or in part for any government function including the IPCC.<br />
B) If any government funding is used in all and/or part of this reconstruction, the reconstruction shall be subjected to the principle of forecasting as described in Principles of Forecasting handbook.<br />
C) If any government funding is used in all or part of this reconstruction, the reconstruction shall be subjected to the Data Quality Act.<br />
D) If scientist and/or institution that does not comply with independent audit and/or principle of forecasting and/or Data Quality Act shall have his and/or hers and/or institution government funding suspended immediately.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Sincerely,</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Richards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SunSword re:Archiving

Agree !  BUT, I have been involved in auditing many, many software projects and I cannot say honestly that many of those have been version controlled in a way that would allow auditing of the past versions.  Also, as you will know, for each version there should be a release note explaining what has changed, why it has changed and its affect on the data.  It is that connection which is so important in climate systems.  HOW has the software changed the data and why is the change valid and that is why achiving is so important.  With archiving, we can take the data of that &quot;era&quot; and apply it to the software of that era and the latest version and make a comparison between the results then and now.

et voilà, an audit!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SunSword re:Archiving</p>
<p>Agree !  BUT, I have been involved in auditing many, many software projects and I cannot say honestly that many of those have been version controlled in a way that would allow auditing of the past versions.  Also, as you will know, for each version there should be a release note explaining what has changed, why it has changed and its affect on the data.  It is that connection which is so important in climate systems.  HOW has the software changed the data and why is the change valid and that is why achiving is so important.  With archiving, we can take the data of that &#8220;era&#8221; and apply it to the software of that era and the latest version and make a comparison between the results then and now.</p>
<p>et voilà, an audit!</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154757</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven Mosher, your actions surely deserve several Pats on your back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven Mosher, your actions surely deserve several Pats on your back.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154756</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 117.  I see my mistake.  post 101 was refering to 95 and not a post by you.
sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 117.  I see my mistake.  post 101 was refering to 95 and not a post by you.<br />
sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Postman Pat</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Postman Pat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I just deliver the mail, guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I just deliver the mail, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Medog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Medog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not me either!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not me either!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Frank</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#84 &quot;snip&quot; -- not a problem, Steve. I honor your principled commitment to reason-based arguments. The necessary point was carried home. That&#039;s sufficient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#84 &#8220;snip&#8221; &#8212; not a problem, Steve. I honor your principled commitment to reason-based arguments. The necessary point was carried home. That&#8217;s sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Frank</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3259#comment-274825&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;#115&lt;/a&gt; -- hmm, were Pat K and I set up?  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3259#comment-274825" rel="nofollow">#115</a> &#8212; hmm, were Pat K and I set up?  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE 114.  I apologize for my mistaken characterization, Pat.

See Jon. That is how grown ups act. no stonewalling, no mealy mouthed crap.
I got  it wrong. And Pat deserves my apology. and he gets it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE 114.  I apologize for my mistaken characterization, Pat.</p>
<p>See Jon. That is how grown ups act. no stonewalling, no mealy mouthed crap.<br />
I got  it wrong. And Pat deserves my apology. and he gets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Keating</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/07/10/the-paleoclimate-reconstruction-grand-challenge/#comment-154750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Keating]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[114 Pat Frank
Just for the record, I have never expressed anything like that statement, either. ;&gt;)
In fact, I am a believer in the MWP and the Little Ice Age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>114 Pat Frank<br />
Just for the record, I have never expressed anything like that statement, either. ;&gt;)<br />
In fact, I am a believer in the MWP and the Little Ice Age.</p>
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