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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Get Yer IOP Porkies here! &#171; The Policy Lass</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-224733</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Get Yer IOP Porkies here! &#171; The Policy Lass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 04:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a post from CA: My interest in climate change derived in part from experience in the stock market where [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a post from CA: My interest in climate change derived in part from experience in the stock market where [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Say My Name &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-220102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Say My Name &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] James Hansen, presumably exhausted from answering &#8220;niggling questions&#8221; at a gala Lehman Bros dinner tells the film-maker:  I&#8217;m not going to use McIntyre&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] James Hansen, presumably exhausted from answering &#8220;niggling questions&#8221; at a gala Lehman Bros dinner tells the film-maker:  I&#8217;m not going to use McIntyre&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Musca</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Musca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think that the failures of Enron and WorldCom and other companies are partially failures of investors to recognize companies that are selling for a thousand times nothing, but chances are they may be worth only that.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think that the failures of Enron and WorldCom and other companies are partially failures of investors to recognize companies that are selling for a thousand times nothing, but chances are they may be worth only that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reference</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reference]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-299350&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Phillip Bratby (#139)&lt;/a&gt;,

At the bottom of this week&#039;s column titled &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&amp;grid=A1YourView&amp;xml=/opinion/2008/09/28/do2805.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carbon capture is not yet here&lt;/a&gt;&quot; Christopher Booker writes the following correction:-
&lt;blockquote&gt;I have been asked by Generation Investment Management, the company set up by Al Gore, to correct a statement in last week&#039;s column. Although Mr Gore is a friend of the erstwhile managing director of Lehman Brothers, GIM has never (as was reported elsewhere) been a &quot;client of Lehman Brothers and has no direct links with the bank at all&quot;.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-299350" rel="nofollow">Phillip Bratby (#139)</a>,</p>
<p>At the bottom of this week&#8217;s column titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&amp;grid=A1YourView&amp;xml=/opinion/2008/09/28/do2805.xml" rel="nofollow">Carbon capture is not yet here</a>&#8221; Christopher Booker writes the following correction:-</p>
<blockquote><p>I have been asked by Generation Investment Management, the company set up by Al Gore, to correct a statement in last week&#8217;s column. Although Mr Gore is a friend of the erstwhile managing director of Lehman Brothers, GIM has never (as was reported elsewhere) been a &#8220;client of Lehman Brothers and has no direct links with the bank at all&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: captdallas2</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[captdallas2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Steve Mosher!

This is an article I wrote on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1068429/american_in_crisis_the_housing_bubble.html?page=2&amp;cat=3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stupidity Index&lt;/a&gt;.  Steve Mac you snip at will just let Mosh see it to give me a review.  Actually, You might enjoy the hockey stick graph link in the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Steve Mosher!</p>
<p>This is an article I wrote on the <a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1068429/american_in_crisis_the_housing_bubble.html?page=2&amp;cat=3" rel="nofollow">Stupidity Index</a>.  Steve Mac you snip at will just let Mosh see it to give me a review.  Actually, You might enjoy the hockey stick graph link in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: James Erlandson</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Erlandson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.wsj.com/wallstreetcrisis/2008/09/24/schumer-senate-has-consensus-on-need-for-bailout-bill/?mod=rss_WSJBlog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WSJ Crisis on Wall Street blog:&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Schumer: Senate Has ‘Consensus&#039; on Need for Bailout Bill&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) said Wednesday a consensus exists in the Senate “that we have to do something” by passing a financial-rescue package, even though most members don&#039;t like the Treasury Department&#039;s proposal and want it changed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Consensus got us into this mess and consensus will get us out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/wallstreetcrisis/2008/09/24/schumer-senate-has-consensus-on-need-for-bailout-bill/?mod=rss_WSJBlog" rel="nofollow">WSJ Crisis on Wall Street blog:</a><br />
<strong>Schumer: Senate Has ‘Consensus&#8217; on Need for Bailout Bill</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) said Wednesday a consensus exists in the Senate “that we have to do something” by passing a financial-rescue package, even though most members don&#8217;t like the Treasury Department&#8217;s proposal and want it changed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Consensus got us into this mess and consensus will get us out.</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Link &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lehman Brothers (1850-2008)</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hot Link &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lehman Brothers (1850-2008)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] not quite accurate but it has some true core, see the fast comments. More details at IceCap.US and ClimateAudit.ORG. Post Feed: Lehman Brothers (1850-2008) - Lubos Motl     Read [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not quite accurate but it has some true core, see the fast comments. More details at IceCap.US and ClimateAudit.ORG. Post Feed: Lehman Brothers (1850-2008) &#8211; Lubos Motl     Read [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luboš Motl</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luboš Motl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This thread is about sociological things, a bit. So I recommend you an excellent 35-page text by Richard Lindzen about the disturbing state of sociology of climate science:

http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/09/richard-lindzen-climate-science-is-it.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is about sociological things, a bit. So I recommend you an excellent 35-page text by Richard Lindzen about the disturbing state of sociology of climate science:</p>
<p><a href="http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/09/richard-lindzen-climate-science-is-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://motls.blogspot.com/2008/09/richard-lindzen-climate-science-is-it.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Follow the Money</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Follow the Money]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;we are grateful to Dr. James Hansen, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who, at the end of a particularly informative dinner hosted by Ben Cotton of the Man Group, gave generously of his time to clear up a number of scientific questions that had been niggling us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was Hansen&#039;s generosity repaid with a generous speaker&#039;s honorarium?

I knew Lehman was toxic, but not so far.  I tried the Report link, it froze my PC.

Did it mention Carbon Derivatives?  It is one of the markets Lehman wanted to play with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we are grateful to Dr. James Hansen, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who, at the end of a particularly informative dinner hosted by Ben Cotton of the Man Group, gave generously of his time to clear up a number of scientific questions that had been niggling us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Was Hansen&#8217;s generosity repaid with a generous speaker&#8217;s honorarium?</p>
<p>I knew Lehman was toxic, but not so far.  I tried the Report link, it froze my PC.</p>
<p>Did it mention Carbon Derivatives?  It is one of the markets Lehman wanted to play with.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/09/17/lehman-bros-and-consensus/#comment-162631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-299597&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mzed (#154)&lt;/a&gt;,

&lt;blockquote&gt;That is, do they tend to produce results that are replicable, or, at the least, able to be falsified, or that follow standard practices? In other words, good science will eventually produce something resembling consensus, so being skeptical about &quot;consensus&quot; is not enough. That&#039;s all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you have been reading at CA you will find that the answer to your first question would be &quot;no&quot; in any number of papers and methodolgies analyzed here.

I would agree with your second sentence if changed to read: &quot;In other words, good science will eventually produce something resembling a &lt;b&gt;correct&lt;/b&gt; consensus, so being skeptical about &quot;consensus&quot; is not enough as one needs detailed analyses to determine whether the consensus is correct and particularly so when there is evidence that new methods have been invented in attempts to substantiate the consensus and that the weaknesses and invalid aspects of these methods have been discovered outside the bounds of the consensus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-299597" rel="nofollow">mzed (#154)</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>That is, do they tend to produce results that are replicable, or, at the least, able to be falsified, or that follow standard practices? In other words, good science will eventually produce something resembling consensus, so being skeptical about &#8220;consensus&#8221; is not enough. That&#8217;s all.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you have been reading at CA you will find that the answer to your first question would be &#8220;no&#8221; in any number of papers and methodolgies analyzed here.</p>
<p>I would agree with your second sentence if changed to read: &#8220;In other words, good science will eventually produce something resembling a <b>correct</b> consensus, so being skeptical about &#8220;consensus&#8221; is not enough as one needs detailed analyses to determine whether the consensus is correct and particularly so when there is evidence that new methods have been invented in attempts to substantiate the consensus and that the weaknesses and invalid aspects of these methods have been discovered outside the bounds of the consensus.</p>
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