Comments on: The Mystery in Kenya

By: The Trouet Ocean Proxies « Climate Audit

The Trouet Ocean Proxies « Climate Audit — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:34:17 +0000

[...] This is Vershuren’s sediment series, mentioned in passing in connection with Mann et al 2008 here , also here. The data set was also used in the discussion of a warm Warm Pool MWP by Newton et al [...]

By: Steve McIntyre

Steve McIntyre — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:58:28 +0000

I noticed something further that’s anomalous about this series. In Mann’s proxyinfill program, he uses (or says that he uses) a dataset 1227proxynamenolu.txt. “nolu” is a shorthand for “no Luterbacher”. The prefix “1227″ doesn’t tie into present nomenclature which has things like 1209proxy … etc and presumably comes from an unreported earlier iteration with 1227 proxies. However this data set has 1137 series. All 1137 are in the 1209. HOwever 1209 minus 71 Luterbacher = 1138. What’s the missing series? The rain in Spain/Kenya (rodrigo).

By: Steve McIntyre

Steve McIntyre — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:27:51 +0000

#84. Now they say:

1209proxynames.xls: Microsoft Excel file containing a list of all the
1209 proxies used and information pertaining to each proxy. The last
column in the file corresponds to the proxy data file name in the
“data/proxy” directory. **UPDATED: 25 September 2008 to correct
errors with the lat/lon values**.

If you’re amending financial statements, you need to show both the before and after. Why shouldn’t that apply here?

By: Steve McIntyre

Steve McIntyre — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:24:39 +0000

Steve Mosher, I looked at this again and they’ve done this totally the wrong way. Their SI should be exactly what was used to generate their results. They can’t go around diddling their SI after the fact. Now their SI isn’t consistent with the data used to generate their graphics and results. Instead of changing their SI, they should have a placed a List of Errata on their website and issued a Corrigendum.

By: steven mosher

steven mosher — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:42:08 +0000

83 any wager on whether my complimentary post giving you credit will make it through?

By: steven mosher

steven mosher — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:33:28 +0000

RE 83. Argg I missed that.

By: Steve McIntyre

Steve McIntyre — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:11:48 +0000

Their revision removed the disclosure of prior corrections to all the Schweingruber series previously noted here http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3844#comment-300590

This sort of subprime accounting should be criticized,

By: steven mosher

steven mosher — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:59:58 +0000

I posted a thanks to gavin, see if it gets through.

Gavin,
I was glad to see this File.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/supplements/MultiproxyMeans07/data/proxy/Readme.txt

As the file indicates a lat/lon error in one series was fixed. So kudo’s to ever fixed the error ( There’s no indication it impacts the results that I know of) It was just
good to see the attention to detail and the fixing of little mistakes even if they don’t matter.

I believe the error was first pointed out here on Sept 22.
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3791

So again, kudo’s to whoever updated the files in such a timely fashion.

By: steven mosher

steven mosher — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:42:36 +0000

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/supplements/MultiproxyMeans07/data/proxy/Readme.txt

in case you missed the update on the 25th to fix a lat/lon problem

By: TAC

TAC — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:32:59 +0000

SteveM: What a thread! Incredible comedy! How fabulous; how rich!

I hereby nominate you and Michael Mann for an Ig® Nobel Prize — this year’s ceremony is October 2nd — which surely belongs alongside that other prize you shared a piece of in 2007.

In any case, this thread made my day!

Time to visit the Tip Jar.