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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Lewandowsky and &#8220;Hide the Decline&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-363525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lewandowsky and &#8220;Hide the Decline&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 18:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] elementary phenomenon that we reflected on in connection with Mann and upside-down Tiljander here, where a reader linked to an amusing video in which the protagonists didn&#8217;t care whether data [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] elementary phenomenon that we reflected on in connection with Mann and upside-down Tiljander here, where a reader linked to an amusing video in which the protagonists didn&#8217;t care whether data [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Climate Wars &#8230; ending? &#124; Skeptical Swedish Scientists</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-239646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Climate Wars &#8230; ending? &#124; Skeptical Swedish Scientists]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Well &#8230; read on here and be [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Connolley Endorses Upside Down Mann &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-237494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Connolley Endorses Upside Down Mann &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] use of the Tiljander sediments was originally discussed here on Oct 2, 2008, a post which discussed the multiple problems with Mann&#8217;s use of these [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] use of the Tiljander sediments was originally discussed here on Oct 2, 2008, a post which discussed the multiple problems with Mann&#8217;s use of these [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Kaufman Corrigendum &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-237492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Kaufman Corrigendum &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] use of the Tiljander series was originally raised at CA in the wake of Mann et al 2008 in Sept 2008 here, that it was further pointed out in a published comment on Mann et al 2008 (McIntyre and McKitrick [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] use of the Tiljander series was originally raised at CA in the wake of Mann et al 2008 in Sept 2008 here, that it was further pointed out in a published comment on Mann et al 2008 (McIntyre and McKitrick [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Upside-Side Down Mann and the &#8221;peerreviewedliterature&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-237070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Upside-Side Down Mann and the &#8221;peerreviewedliterature&#8221; &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Atte Korhola. Mann&#8217;s upside down use of the Tiljander proxies was originally reported at CA here in fall 2008 and then reported to PNAS in a published comment by Ross and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Atte Korhola. Mann&#8217;s upside down use of the Tiljander proxies was originally reported at CA here in fall 2008 and then reported to PNAS in a published comment by Ross and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mannian CPS &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-233658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mannian CPS &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 12.5N 47.5E and 12.5N 52.5E. This problem was noted a couple of weeks ago by Jean S and UC, who observed that  that the regts series in two gridcells were identical in an early network (Socotra [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 12.5N 47.5E and 12.5N 52.5E. This problem was noted a couple of weeks ago by Jean S and UC, who observed that  that the regts series in two gridcells were identical in an early network (Socotra [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bender</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-233615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bender]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/29/is-gavin-schmidt-honest/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/29/is-gavin-schmidt-honest/" rel="nofollow">http://climateaudit.org/2005/10/29/is-gavin-schmidt-honest/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gray</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-233608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The post leads off with Gavin Schmidt’s complaint that my comments on Tiljander exemplify a pathology that obstructs communication between climate scientists and skeptics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How would Schmidt say that the following practices are relevant to that kind of obstruction:

a) extensive censoring of adverse comments

b) editing and otherwise distorting comments

c) replying to comments with personal and off topic comments

d) making comments about someone&#039;s postion and not providing the opportunity to reply]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The post leads off with Gavin Schmidt’s complaint that my comments on Tiljander exemplify a pathology that obstructs communication between climate scientists and skeptics.</p></blockquote>
<p>How would Schmidt say that the following practices are relevant to that kind of obstruction:</p>
<p>a) extensive censoring of adverse comments</p>
<p>b) editing and otherwise distorting comments</p>
<p>c) replying to comments with personal and off topic comments</p>
<p>d) making comments about someone&#8217;s postion and not providing the opportunity to reply</p>
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		<title>By: AMac</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-233596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AMac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: the Trackback &quot;Tiljander &lt;&lt; AGW Observer (Jun 28, 2010 at 4:39 AM):

Within the past fortnight, there was a useful discussion of the use of the Lake Korttajarvi proxies in Mann08, at Keith Kloor&#039;s blog Collide-a-scape, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/06/16/the-main-hindrance-to-dialogue-and-detente/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Main Hindrance to Dialogue (and Detente)&lt;/a&gt;. The post leads off with Gavin Schmidt&#039;s complaint that my comments on Tiljander exemplify a pathology that obstructs communication between climate scientists and skeptics.

On June 27, Arthur Smith posted on Mann08&#039;s use of Tiljander, &lt;a href=&quot;http://arthur.shumwaysmith.com/life/content/wheres_the_fraud&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Where&#039;s the fraud?&lt;/a&gt;.  As the title indicates, his focus is on accusations of fraud.  I point out in his (heavily moderated) comment section that this emphasis is misplaced and unhelpful.

In March, I walked through the use of the Tiljander X-Ray Density (XRD) data series by Mann08 in the post &lt;a href=&quot;http://amac1.blogspot.com/2010/03/newly-discovered-jarvykortta-proxy-ii.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Newly-Discovered Jarvykortta Proxy -- II&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the Trackback &#8220;Tiljander &lt;&lt; AGW Observer (Jun 28, 2010 at 4:39 AM):</p>
<p>Within the past fortnight, there was a useful discussion of the use of the Lake Korttajarvi proxies in Mann08, at Keith Kloor&#039;s blog Collide-a-scape, <a href="http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/06/16/the-main-hindrance-to-dialogue-and-detente/" rel="nofollow">The Main Hindrance to Dialogue (and Detente)</a>. The post leads off with Gavin Schmidt&#8217;s complaint that my comments on Tiljander exemplify a pathology that obstructs communication between climate scientists and skeptics.</p>
<p>On June 27, Arthur Smith posted on Mann08&#8242;s use of Tiljander, <a href="http://arthur.shumwaysmith.com/life/content/wheres_the_fraud" rel="nofollow">Where&#8217;s the fraud?</a>.  As the title indicates, his focus is on accusations of fraud.  I point out in his (heavily moderated) comment section that this emphasis is misplaced and unhelpful.</p>
<p>In March, I walked through the use of the Tiljander X-Ray Density (XRD) data series by Mann08 in the post <a href="http://amac1.blogspot.com/2010/03/newly-discovered-jarvykortta-proxy-ii.html" rel="nofollow">The Newly-Discovered Jarvykortta Proxy &#8212; II</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiljander &#171; AGW Observer</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/10/02/its-saturday-night-live/#comment-233594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiljander &#171; AGW Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] has also presented some claims relating to this before in his website. Here&#8217;s to my knowledge the first of his posts on the issue, saying: By flipping the data opposite to the interpretation of Tiljander et al, Mann shows the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has also presented some claims relating to this before in his website. Here&#8217;s to my knowledge the first of his posts on the issue, saying: By flipping the data opposite to the interpretation of Tiljander et al, Mann shows the [...]</p>
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