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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168640</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s December now - so this is the first to have November, 2008 data. It would normally be updated at least once a month at least to incorporate the latest month&#039;s data.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s December now &#8211; so this is the first to have November, 2008 data. It would normally be updated at least once a month at least to incorporate the latest month&#8217;s data.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168639</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just noticed that there is now a new version of &lt;a href=&quot;ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_1880_2008.dat.gz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grid_1880_2008.dat.gz&lt;/a&gt; on the server.

I do not have a copy of the previous version but I am hoping Steve does so he can compare if anything has changed.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/asinan/3081216338/sizes/o/&quot; title=&quot;20081203-183931-ftp_ncdc_noaa_gov_pub_data_ghcn_v2_grid by sinan_unur, on Flickr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

-- Sinan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed that there is now a new version of <a href="ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_1880_2008.dat.gz" rel="nofollow">grid_1880_2008.dat.gz</a> on the server.</p>
<p>I do not have a copy of the previous version but I am hoping Steve does so he can compare if anything has changed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/asinan/3081216338/sizes/o/" title="20081203-183931-ftp_ncdc_noaa_gov_pub_data_ghcn_v2_grid by sinan_unur, on Flickr" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p>&#8211; Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168638</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-314044&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sinan Unur (#79)&lt;/a&gt;, looks like a false alarm. This still contains the file from April, 2007. Sorry, got a little excited at first.

-- Sinan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-314044" rel="nofollow">Sinan Unur (#79)</a>, looks like a false alarm. This still contains the file from April, 2007. Sorry, got a little excited at first.</p>
<p>&#8211; Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Sinan Unur</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinan Unur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heads up!

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_mean_temp_1880_current.dat.gz

File:grid_mean_temp_1880_current.dat.gz  2434 KB  2008/11/28 07:00:00 PM

I haven&#039;t looked at the file yet.

-- Sinan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heads up!</p>
<p><a href="ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_mean_temp_1880_current.dat.gz" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_mean_temp_1880_current.dat.gz</a></p>
<p>File:grid_mean_temp_1880_current.dat.gz  2434 KB  2008/11/28 07:00:00 PM</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t looked at the file yet.</p>
<p>&#8211; Sinan</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313248&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deep Climate (#77)&lt;/a&gt;,

DC, those posts are #s 138 and 140 at the link below:

http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4344#comment-313232]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-313248" rel="nofollow">Deep Climate (#77)</a>,</p>
<p>DC, those posts are #s 138 and 140 at the link below:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4344#comment-313232" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=4344#comment-313232</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deep Climate</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deep Climate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313239&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kenneth Fritsch (#76)&lt;/a&gt;,

There was a legitimate concern raised about the existence of the &quot;carryover&quot; error in earler months, and there were even two concrete examples (Resolute and Finland). So I thought it was a relevant investigation. Actually, I was surprised to find only three definite errors, given that Steve had stumbled on one of them more or less by accident. But it still needs to be fixed.

I have no idea what the 2007 GHCN monthlies will reveal. I&#039;ll have a look at it later today when I get a few minutes.

Your suggested links point back to this thread, so I can&#039;t find them. Can you point me to the right thread? Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-313239" rel="nofollow">Kenneth Fritsch (#76)</a>,</p>
<p>There was a legitimate concern raised about the existence of the &#8220;carryover&#8221; error in earler months, and there were even two concrete examples (Resolute and Finland). So I thought it was a relevant investigation. Actually, I was surprised to find only three definite errors, given that Steve had stumbled on one of them more or less by accident. But it still needs to be fixed.</p>
<p>I have no idea what the 2007 GHCN monthlies will reveal. I&#8217;ll have a look at it later today when I get a few minutes.</p>
<p>Your suggested links point back to this thread, so I can&#8217;t find them. Can you point me to the right thread? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Fritsch</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168634</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth Fritsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313112&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deep Climate (#71)&lt;/a&gt;,

DC, I think the bigger picture intent of these audits at CA is to determine the general reliability that can be expected of these temperature data sets.  I have compared UAH/RSS to GISS at the links below and I suspect that real differences exist. In order to make a more detailed analysis of these differences, I would judge it important to determine the QC/QA involved and willingness of the data set owners/keepers to reveal their methods and explain the errors detected in their data sets.

I may be wrong in my impression, but you seem more intent on busily showing that this particular error(s) was inconsequential to the overall picture.

Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313088&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kenneth Fritsch (#138)&lt;/a&gt;, Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-313232&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kenneth Fritsch (#140)&lt;/a&gt;,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-313112" rel="nofollow">Deep Climate (#71)</a>,</p>
<p>DC, I think the bigger picture intent of these audits at CA is to determine the general reliability that can be expected of these temperature data sets.  I have compared UAH/RSS to GISS at the links below and I suspect that real differences exist. In order to make a more detailed analysis of these differences, I would judge it important to determine the QC/QA involved and willingness of the data set owners/keepers to reveal their methods and explain the errors detected in their data sets.</p>
<p>I may be wrong in my impression, but you seem more intent on busily showing that this particular error(s) was inconsequential to the overall picture.</p>
<p>Re: <a href="#comment-313088" rel="nofollow">Kenneth Fritsch (#138)</a>, Re: <a href="#comment-313232" rel="nofollow">Kenneth Fritsch (#140)</a>,</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new version of ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_1880_2008.dat.gz was posted on the NOAA website today without explanation or apology.

PS. It appears to be the same version as the one that was deleted last week.  Gridcell 329 is the same as before and is still problematic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new version of <a href="ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_1880_2008.dat.gz" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v2/grid/grid_1880_2008.dat.gz</a> was posted on the NOAA website today without explanation or apology.</p>
<p>PS. It appears to be the same version as the one that was deleted last week.  Gridcell 329 is the same as before and is still problematic.</p>
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		<title>By: JimB</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike B:
Would that be the front door?

JimB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike B:<br />
Would that be the front door?</p>
<p>JimB</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Bryant</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2008/11/20/hello-viet-nam/#comment-168631</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Mike C.,
Mabe someone needs to go knock on their door.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Mike C.,<br />
Mabe someone needs to go knock on their door.</p>
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