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	<title>Comments on: More Changes at the Mann 2008 SI</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Painter</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-377947</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Painter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They have ganged up on Mann. One of those is Rosanne D&#039;Arrigo of &quot;cherry pie&quot; fame. The principle in dispute is rather obscure and minor so it seems to me, but obviously a big deal to those.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have ganged up on Mann. One of those is Rosanne D&#8217;Arrigo of &#8220;cherry pie&#8221; fame. The principle in dispute is rather obscure and minor so it seems to me, but obviously a big deal to those.</p>
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		<title>By: Skiphil</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-377920</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skiphil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that Mann has provoked 23 dendros to publicly repudiate his work on another paper it may be a propitious time for others to make the case that Mann is not science God.  All of his data and calculations need to be independently audited no matter how loudly he proclaims his infallibility.

http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/11/26/lonely-old-mann.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Mann has provoked 23 dendros to publicly repudiate his work on another paper it may be a propitious time for others to make the case that Mann is not science God.  All of his data and calculations need to be independently audited no matter how loudly he proclaims his infallibility.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/11/26/lonely-old-mann.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/11/26/lonely-old-mann.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-330107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their reply, needless to say, did not acknowledge that they placed the code online AFTER our comment: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The method of uncertainty estimation (use of calibration/validation residuals) is conventional (3, 4) and was described explicitly in ref. 2 (also in ref. 5), and Matlab code is available at www.meteo.
psu.edu/~mann/supplements/MultiproxyMeans07/code/
codeveri/calc_error.m.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their reply, needless to say, did not acknowledge that they placed the code online AFTER our comment: </p>
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The method of uncertainty estimation (use of calibration/validation residuals) is conventional (3, 4) and was described explicitly in ref. 2 (also in ref. 5), and Matlab code is available at <a href="http://www.meteo" rel="nofollow">http://www.meteo</a>.<br />
psu.edu/~mann/supplements/MultiproxyMeans07/code/<br />
codeveri/calc_error.m.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mark B Bradley</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-208460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark B Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Store So TIP, the whole picture?From health products, ? Mobile and.The insurer pays, and harmless as.Standard link to Mark B Bradley, on muddy ground when the landlord.No content The, fairly simple if.,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Store So TIP, the whole picture?From health products, ? Mobile and.The insurer pays, and harmless as.Standard link to Mark B Bradley, on muddy ground when the landlord.No content The, fairly simple if.,</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T.</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-320047&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike B (#57)&lt;/a&gt;, Ohhh nooo!  You sir are an evil, evil person.

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-320047" rel="nofollow">Mike B (#57)</a>, Ohhh nooo!  You sir are an evil, evil person.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Loehle</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Loehle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the University of Georgia, the old chapel built in the 1880s looks like it was designed by someone who had heard about greek architecture, but never actually seen any.  These ci calcs remind me of that...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the University of Georgia, the old chapel built in the 1880s looks like it was designed by someone who had heard about greek architecture, but never actually seen any.  These ci calcs remind me of that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob North</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172495</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob North]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alright now I haveve both &quot;Hooked on a feeling&quot; and Gilligan&#039;s theme song stuck my head.  Thanks a lot guys!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright now I haveve both &#8220;Hooked on a feeling&#8221; and Gilligan&#8217;s theme song stuck my head.  Thanks a lot guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I realize this is totally OT, but here is a guaranteed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM4QOflsV0&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reset button&lt;/a&gt; anytime you get an annoying song stuck in your head.

Guaranteed. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is totally OT, but here is a guaranteed <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iM4QOflsV0&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">reset button</a> anytime you get an annoying song stuck in your head.</p>
<p>Guaranteed. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172493</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-319734&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jordan (#30)&lt;/a&gt;,

Speaking of images, Jordan&#039;s picture of &#039;settled&#039; science unsettles my Risus Monkey.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-319734" rel="nofollow">Jordan (#30)</a>,</p>
<p>Speaking of images, Jordan&#8217;s picture of &#8216;settled&#8217; science unsettles my Risus Monkey.<br />
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/01/12/more-changes-at-the-mann-2008-si/#comment-172492</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Steve.  That&#039;s a visual attached to a song that I didn&#039;t need in my head.

Mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Steve.  That&#8217;s a visual attached to a song that I didn&#8217;t need in my head.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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