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	<title>Comments on: Gavin&#8217;s Mystery Man</title>
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		<title>By: Gavin&#8217;s &#8220;Mystery Man&#8221; Revealed &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-248800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gavin&#8217;s &#8220;Mystery Man&#8221; Revealed &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I inquired about the identity of Gavin&#8217;s &#8220;mystery man&#8221;? Today (Feb 4) the British Antarctic [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I inquired about the identity of Gavin&#8217;s &#8220;mystery man&#8221;? Today (Feb 4) the British Antarctic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steig and the International Man of Mystery &#171; Climate Audit</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-243016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steig and the International Man of Mystery &#171; Climate Audit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of Steig, let me review their previous defence of Gavin the Mystery Man, originally discussed here here. I had noticed curious properties in the Harry station in Antarctica, which were subsequently [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Steig, let me review their previous defence of Gavin the Mystery Man, originally discussed here here. I had noticed curious properties in the Harry station in Antarctica, which were subsequently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Temperature Calibrator</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Temperature Calibrator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there calibration issues? If there are calibration issues, they should see if their temperature calibrator is affected because of the climate or something hit it. This issue should be clear enough so that people will believe and it will be clear to all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there calibration issues? If there are calibration issues, they should see if their temperature calibrator is affected because of the climate or something hit it. This issue should be clear enough so that people will believe and it will be clear to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack L. Herz</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174869</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack L. Herz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please disregard my previious comments. It was handled well in the Appendix 2.

Regards, Jack Herz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please disregard my previious comments. It was handled well in the Appendix 2.</p>
<p>Regards, Jack Herz</p>
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		<title>By: _Jim</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174868</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[_Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-324245&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MrPete (#86)&lt;/a&gt;, or, alternatively Mr Pete, may I point to: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.het.brown.edu/news/air/9402.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The mini-Journal of Irreproducable Results&lt;/a&gt;

Sample from one volume:

Volume 3 also contains an article on &quot;Grading Systems of Scientific
Workers&quot; by D. Rougge. Several systems are evaluated:
1. Idea grading: based on IPM (ideas per minute). It works quite well
for scientists employing many graduate or postgrad students.
2. Execution grading: based on projects - no matter whether original or
not. The important factor is the number of publications or patents.
3. Disagreeable grading : Certain activities (administration of a
department, planning of laboratories, organization of conferences,
inspection of laboratories) seem to be quite disagreeable to scientists.
Promotions can be keyed to the performance of these disagreeable jobs.
4. Public relations: Grading depends on scientists ability to convince
potential investors to part with their money]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-324245" rel="nofollow">MrPete (#86)</a>, or, alternatively Mr Pete, may I point to: <a href="http://www.het.brown.edu/news/air/9402.html" rel="nofollow">The mini-Journal of Irreproducable Results</a></p>
<p>Sample from one volume:</p>
<p>Volume 3 also contains an article on &#8220;Grading Systems of Scientific<br />
Workers&#8221; by D. Rougge. Several systems are evaluated:<br />
1. Idea grading: based on IPM (ideas per minute). It works quite well<br />
for scientists employing many graduate or postgrad students.<br />
2. Execution grading: based on projects &#8211; no matter whether original or<br />
not. The important factor is the number of publications or patents.<br />
3. Disagreeable grading : Certain activities (administration of a<br />
department, planning of laboratories, organization of conferences,<br />
inspection of laboratories) seem to be quite disagreeable to scientists.<br />
Promotions can be keyed to the performance of these disagreeable jobs.<br />
4. Public relations: Grading depends on scientists ability to convince<br />
potential investors to part with their money</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-324950&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve McIntyre (#125)&lt;/a&gt;, &#039;&quot;Verification skill&quot; may reject negative trends.&#039;

A verification algorithm that obviously eliminated sites with a cooling bias would look pretty suspect. Let&#039;s hope that&#039;s not the case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-324950" rel="nofollow">Steve McIntyre (#125)</a>, &#8216;&#8221;Verification skill&#8221; may reject negative trends.&#8217;</p>
<p>A verification algorithm that obviously eliminated sites with a cooling bias would look pretty suspect. Let&#8217;s hope that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why the four AWSs were mixed into the list of manned stations in Table S2. When they selected the 26 AWS sites for &quot;reconstruction&quot; in Table S1, they didn&#039;t use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Mount_Siple.All.temperature.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mount Siple&lt;/a&gt; with 138 data points or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Byrd.All.temperature.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Byrd&lt;/a&gt; with 192. However, they kept &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Enigma_Lake.All.temperature.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Enigma Lake&lt;/a&gt; with 126 points and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Nico.All.temperature.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nico&lt;/a&gt; with 120.

The &quot;&gt;40% complete&quot; threshold for AWS selection seems to be defined in terms of when the READER data record starts for each station. It would have made more sense to pick one common start time to define data completeness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why the four AWSs were mixed into the list of manned stations in Table S2. When they selected the 26 AWS sites for &#8220;reconstruction&#8221; in Table S1, they didn&#8217;t use <a href="http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Mount_Siple.All.temperature.txt" rel="nofollow">Mount Siple</a> with 138 data points or <a href="http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Byrd.All.temperature.txt" rel="nofollow">Byrd</a> with 192. However, they kept <a href="http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Enigma_Lake.All.temperature.txt" rel="nofollow">Enigma Lake</a> with 126 points and <a href="http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/aws/Nico.All.temperature.txt" rel="nofollow">Nico</a> with 120.</p>
<p>The &#8220;&gt;40% complete&#8221; threshold for AWS selection seems to be defined in terms of when the READER data record starts for each station. It would have made more sense to pick one common start time to define data completeness.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174865</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve McIntyre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#124. Table S1 says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Table S1. Verification statistics (mean correlation coefficients (r), reduction of error (RE) and coefficient of efficiency (CE) statistics, from pre and post-1995 calibration/verification calculations) for the AWSbased reconstruction, for those 26 automatic weather stations where sufficient calibration data exist (data &gt;40% complete) and verification skill is acceptable at &gt;95% confidence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Verification skill&quot; may reject negative trends.

Also there&#039;s an ongoing loose end with Table S1 and S2 that I don&#039;t understand. Harry and 3 other AWS stations are in Table S2 with the surface stations and not in Table S1 with the AWS stations. I can&#039;t make head nor tail of the various &quot;explanations&quot; at RC on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#124. Table S1 says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Table S1. Verification statistics (mean correlation coefficients (r), reduction of error (RE) and coefficient of efficiency (CE) statistics, from pre and post-1995 calibration/verification calculations) for the AWSbased reconstruction, for those 26 automatic weather stations where sufficient calibration data exist (data &gt;40% complete) and verification skill is acceptable at &gt;95% confidence.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Verification skill&#8221; may reject negative trends.</p>
<p>Also there&#8217;s an ongoing loose end with Table S1 and S2 that I don&#8217;t understand. Harry and 3 other AWS stations are in Table S2 with the surface stations and not in Table S1 with the AWS stations. I can&#8217;t make head nor tail of the various &#8220;explanations&#8221; at RC on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-324808&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve J (#123)&lt;/a&gt;, Didn&#039;t I read somewhere that ONLY negative trend sites were thrown out. No positive trend sites were tossed even though some had shorter data series than some negative trend sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-324808" rel="nofollow">Steve J (#123)</a>, Didn&#8217;t I read somewhere that ONLY negative trend sites were thrown out. No positive trend sites were tossed even though some had shorter data series than some negative trend sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/02/03/gavins-mystery-man/#comment-174863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-324762&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard M (#122)&lt;/a&gt; if, hypothetically, someone was looking for a way to force agreement between a model that predicts warming and a set of data with mixed warming and cooling, then throwing out all the data that shows cooling would be a good way to do it.

It looks like AWSs Mount Siple and Elizabeth, both on West Antarctica and having negative trends, were tossed out before the &quot;reconstruction&quot;. If those had been included, I wonder how well the AWS reconstruction would have correlated with the model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-324762" rel="nofollow">Richard M (#122)</a> if, hypothetically, someone was looking for a way to force agreement between a model that predicts warming and a set of data with mixed warming and cooling, then throwing out all the data that shows cooling would be a good way to do it.</p>
<p>It looks like AWSs Mount Siple and Elizabeth, both on West Antarctica and having negative trends, were tossed out before the &#8220;reconstruction&#8221;. If those had been included, I wonder how well the AWS reconstruction would have correlated with the model.</p>
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