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	<title>Comments on: Santer and the &quot;Power of Poop&quot;</title>
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	<description>by Steve McIntyre</description>
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		<title>By: WilliMc</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/18/santer-simon-the-hippo-and-kilimanjaro-snow/#comment-235152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WilliMc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crosspatch:

Your deduction regarding grass/grazing is interesting. Lands containing a large amount of sand may have a large variety of grasses. I recall a USDA specialist stating he had identified some, if memory serves, forty-six different species on the Oasis Ranch in Hemphill County, Texas. Prior to intensive grazing, the taller, and best species for cattle, were predominate. Seventy-five cows to the section was one limit on a lease. After the thirties hot dry years, twenty-six cattle was the norm. The good grasses were favored by the cattle, who would walk past less favored grass to find a special patch of tall grass---sandhill bluestem. The answer to the problem was to keep the cattle away from the grass during the growing season. So a rotcation of pastures let permitted two pastures to lie fallow during the summer, thus increasing the good grasses. 

Prior to the intensive cattle grazing, only buffalo herds would pass through. I suspect this would emulate the rotation program. 

That country is worthless for farming, as it would blow away. 

WilliMc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crosspatch:</p>
<p>Your deduction regarding grass/grazing is interesting. Lands containing a large amount of sand may have a large variety of grasses. I recall a USDA specialist stating he had identified some, if memory serves, forty-six different species on the Oasis Ranch in Hemphill County, Texas. Prior to intensive grazing, the taller, and best species for cattle, were predominate. Seventy-five cows to the section was one limit on a lease. After the thirties hot dry years, twenty-six cattle was the norm. The good grasses were favored by the cattle, who would walk past less favored grass to find a special patch of tall grass&#8212;sandhill bluestem. The answer to the problem was to keep the cattle away from the grass during the growing season. So a rotcation of pastures let permitted two pastures to lie fallow during the summer, thus increasing the good grasses. </p>
<p>Prior to the intensive cattle grazing, only buffalo herds would pass through. I suspect this would emulate the rotation program. </p>
<p>That country is worthless for farming, as it would blow away. </p>
<p>WilliMc</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 57 &amp; 58

  Nobody gets my jokes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 57 &amp; 58</p>
<p>  Nobody gets my jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/18/santer-simon-the-hippo-and-kilimanjaro-snow/#comment-183783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pita/P.E.T.A.  Whatever.

Let&#039;s consider this a naan-event.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pita/P.E.T.A.  Whatever.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s consider this a naan-event.</p>
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		<title>By: OldUnixHead</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OldUnixHead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect he meant P.E.T.A. !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect he meant P.E.T.A. !!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Alberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Alberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-342291&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steven mosher (#52)&lt;/a&gt;,

Pita??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-342291" rel="nofollow">steven mosher (#52)</a>,</p>
<p>Pita??</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 15:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re 54.  It&#039;s good to be back. i haven&#039;t been gone, just biting my tongue. hmm, now I&#039;m craving a cow tongue sandwich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 54.  It&#8217;s good to be back. i haven&#8217;t been gone, just biting my tongue. hmm, now I&#8217;m craving a cow tongue sandwich.</p>
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		<title>By: crosspatch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crosspatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help but wonder what the methane output of aurochs, from which all modern cattle are descended, was.  And if one wants a healthy grassland, grazing animals are required as grass is adapted to being grazed and is healthier if grazed to a moderate extent.

If one were to desire a healthy plot of prairie grass, one would need to put some kind of grazing animal in there along with it.  The notion that cattle are in some way harmful is pretty much nuts.  If they were harmful, nature would have selected out the aurochs for that reason rather than for being tasty to humans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but wonder what the methane output of aurochs, from which all modern cattle are descended, was.  And if one wants a healthy grassland, grazing animals are required as grass is adapted to being grazed and is healthier if grazed to a moderate extent.</p>
<p>If one were to desire a healthy plot of prairie grass, one would need to put some kind of grazing animal in there along with it.  The notion that cattle are in some way harmful is pretty much nuts.  If they were harmful, nature would have selected out the aurochs for that reason rather than for being tasty to humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-342292&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steven mosher (#53)&lt;/a&gt;, Especially if you get Mad Cow disease and die.

BTW, good to see the mosh is back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-342292" rel="nofollow">steven mosher (#53)</a>, Especially if you get Mad Cow disease and die.</p>
<p>BTW, good to see the mosh is back.</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/18/santer-simon-the-hippo-and-kilimanjaro-snow/#comment-183777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[eat a calves brain, get carbon credits]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eat a calves brain, get carbon credits</p>
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		<title>By: steven mosher</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/18/santer-simon-the-hippo-and-kilimanjaro-snow/#comment-183776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven mosher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re 30.

  Yes, the unintended consequences would be an increase in the consumption of veal. now pita will be pissed.

  Eat Veal, reduce methane, save the planet.

  what did you do to save the planet from global warming daddy?
  I ate veal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 30.</p>
<p>  Yes, the unintended consequences would be an increase in the consumption of veal. now pita will be pissed.</p>
<p>  Eat Veal, reduce methane, save the planet.</p>
<p>  what did you do to save the planet from global warming daddy?<br />
  I ate veal.</p>
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