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		<title>By: Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit &#124; Green Tea Fat Burner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit &#124; Green Tea Fat Burner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit   Posted by root 1 day 21 hours ago (http://www.climateaudit.org)        Sst description quot hadisst 1 1 monthly average sea surface temperature quot global attributes comment quot data restrictions for academic research use only argh wordpress ate a bunch of the r 39 cause it had leading greater thans here it is again powere        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit   Posted by root 1 day 21 hours ago (<a href="http://www.climateaudit.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.climateaudit.org</a>)        Sst description quot hadisst 1 1 monthly average sea surface temperature quot global attributes comment quot data restrictions for academic research use only argh wordpress ate a bunch of the r 39 cause it had leading greater thans here it is again powere        Discuss&nbsp;  |&nbsp; Bury |&nbsp;    News | Another Bouquet for Geert at KNMI Climate Audit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly the same results with 32-bit Linux.  Must be a Windows thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly the same results with 32-bit Linux.  Must be a Windows thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Strand</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Strand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem isn&#039;t with bitness, it&#039;s with R and/or the software to allow R to understand netCDF. The file itself is small - less than 1/2 GB. 32-bit Linuces should have no problem with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isn&#8217;t with bitness, it&#8217;s with R and/or the software to allow R to understand netCDF. The file itself is small &#8211; less than 1/2 GB. 32-bit Linuces should have no problem with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184206</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Argh, Wordpress ate a bunch of the R &#039;cause it had leading greater-thans. Here it is again.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
gz &lt;- gzfile(&quot;HadISST_sst.nc.gz&quot;, &quot;rb&quot;)
data &lt;- readBin(gz, &quot;raw&quot;, 104857600)
close(gz)
tempfile &lt;- file(&quot;temp.nc&quot;, &quot;wb&quot;)
writeBin(data, tempfile)
close(tempfile)
library(ncdf)
nc &lt;-open.ncdf(&quot;temp.nc&quot;)
nc2 &lt;-open.ncdf(&quot;ucHadISST_sst.nc&quot;)
library(RNetCDF)
nc3 &lt;-open.nc(&quot;temp.nc&quot;)
nc4 &lt;-open.nc(&quot;ucHadISST_sst.nc&quot;)
print.ncdf(nc)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, WordPress ate a bunch of the R &#8217;cause it had leading greater-thans. Here it is again.</p>
<blockquote><p>
gz &lt;- gzfile(&#8220;HadISST_sst.nc.gz&#8221;, &#8220;rb&#8221;)<br />
data &lt;- readBin(gz, &#8220;raw&#8221;, 104857600)<br />
close(gz)<br />
tempfile &lt;- file(&#8220;temp.nc&#8221;, &#8220;wb&#8221;)<br />
writeBin(data, tempfile)<br />
close(tempfile)<br />
library(ncdf)<br />
nc &lt;-open.ncdf(&#8220;temp.nc&#8221;)<br />
nc2 &lt;-open.ncdf(&#8220;ucHadISST_sst.nc&#8221;)<br />
library(RNetCDF)<br />
nc3 &lt;-open.nc(&#8220;temp.nc&#8221;)<br />
nc4 &lt;-open.nc(&#8220;ucHadISST_sst.nc&#8221;)<br />
print.ncdf(nc)
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had no problems opening these under 64-bit Linux.  I&#039;m not sure that it&#039;s the 64-bitness that fixes things, though, so I&#039;m going to try 32-bit Linux next.  I used a package called &quot;RNetCDF&quot; instead of &quot;ncdf&quot; at first.  Both R extensions opened the files without problems:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
R version 2.8.1 (2008-12-22)
Copyright (C) 2008 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing
ISBN 3-900051-07-0
...
&gt; gz  data  close(gz)
&gt; tempfile  writeBin(data, tempfile)
&gt; close(tempfile)
&gt; library(ncdf)
&gt; nc  nc2  library(RNetCDF)
&gt; nc3  nc4  print.ncdf(nc)
[1] &quot;file temp.nc has 4 dimensions:&quot;
[1] &quot;lon   Size: 360&quot;
[1] &quot;lat   Size: 180&quot;
[1] &quot;time   Size: 1671&quot;
[1] &quot;nv   Size: 2&quot;
[1] &quot;------------------------&quot;
[1] &quot;file temp.nc has 2 variables:&quot;
[1] &quot;double time_bnds[nv,time]  Longname:time_bnds Missval:1e+30&quot;
[1] &quot;float sst[lon,lat,time]  Longname:Monthly 1 degree resolution SST Missval:-1.00000001504747e+30&quot;
&gt; print.ncdf(nc2)
[1] &quot;file ucHadISST_sst.nc has 4 dimensions:&quot;
[1] &quot;lon   Size: 360&quot;
[1] &quot;lat   Size: 180&quot;
[1] &quot;time   Size: 1671&quot;
[1] &quot;nv   Size: 2&quot;
[1] &quot;------------------------&quot;
[1] &quot;file ucHadISST_sst.nc has 2 variables:&quot;
[1] &quot;double time_bnds[nv,time]  Longname:time_bnds Missval:1e+30&quot;
[1] &quot;float sst[lon,lat,time]  Longname:Monthly 1 degree resolution SST Missval:-1.00000001504747e+30&quot;
&gt; print.nc(nc3)
dimensions:
        lon = 360 ;
        lat = 180 ;
        time = 1671 ;
        nv = 2 ;
variables:
        float lon(lon) ;
                lon:long_name = &quot;Longitude&quot; ;
                lon:standard_name = &quot;longitude&quot; ;
                lon:units = &quot;degrees_east&quot; ;
                lon:actual_range = -179.5179.5 ;
        float lat(lat) ;
                lat:long_name = &quot;Latitude&quot; ;
                lat:standard_name = &quot;latitude&quot; ;
                lat:units = &quot;degrees_north&quot; ;
                lat:actual_range = -89.589.5 ;
        double time(time) ;
                time:long_name = &quot;Time&quot; ;
                time:bounds = &quot;time_bnds&quot; ;
                time:standard_name = &quot;time&quot; ;
                time:units = &quot;hours since 1-1-1 00:00:0.0&quot; ;
                time:actual_range = 1638336017603232 ;
                time:delta_t = &quot;0000-00-01 00:00:00&quot; ;
        double time_bnds(nv, time) ;
        float sst(lon, lat, time) ;
                sst:long_name = &quot;Monthly 1 degree resolution SST&quot; ;
                sst:standard_name = &quot;sea_surface_temperature&quot; ;
                sst:units = &quot;degC&quot; ;
                sst:add_offset = 0 ;
                sst:cell_methods = &quot;time: lat: lon: mean&quot; ;
                sst:scale_factor = 1 ;
                sst:_FillValue = -1e+30 ;
                sst:missing_value = -1e+30 ;
                sst:actual_range = -1.834.76296 ;
                sst:description = &quot;HadISST 1.1 monthly average sea surface temperature&quot; ;

// global attributes:
                :Conventions = &quot;CF-1.0&quot; ;
                :title = &quot;Monthly version of HadISST sea surface temperature component&quot; ;
                :institution = &quot;Met Office, Hadley Centre for Climate Research&quot; ;
                :source = &quot;HadISST&quot; ;
                :history = &quot;09/11/2006 HadISST converted to NetCDF from pp format by John Kennedy&quot; ;
                :references = &quot;Rayner, N. A., Parker, D. E., Horton, E. B., Folland, C. K., Alexander, L. V., Rowell, D. P., Kent, E. C., Kaplan, A.  Global analyses of sea surface temperature, sea ice, and night marine air temperature since the late nineteenth century J. Geophys. Res.Vol. 108, No. D14, 4407 10.1029/2002JD002670&quot; ;
                :comment = &quot;Data restrictions: for academic research use only. Data are Crown copyright see (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm)&quot; ;
                :supplementary_information = &quot;Updates and supplementary information will be available from http://www.hadobs.org&quot; ;
                :contact = &quot;j&quot; ;
&gt; print.nc(nc4)
dimensions:
        lon = 360 ;
        lat = 180 ;
        time = 1671 ;
        nv = 2 ;
variables:
        float lon(lon) ;
                lon:long_name = &quot;Longitude&quot; ;
                lon:standard_name = &quot;longitude&quot; ;
                lon:units = &quot;degrees_east&quot; ;
                lon:actual_range = -179.5179.5 ;
        float lat(lat) ;
                lat:long_name = &quot;Latitude&quot; ;
                lat:standard_name = &quot;latitude&quot; ;
                lat:units = &quot;degrees_north&quot; ;
                lat:actual_range = -89.589.5 ;
        double time(time) ;
                time:long_name = &quot;Time&quot; ;
                time:bounds = &quot;time_bnds&quot; ;
                time:standard_name = &quot;time&quot; ;
                time:units = &quot;hours since 1-1-1 00:00:0.0&quot; ;
                time:actual_range = 1638336017603232 ;
                time:delta_t = &quot;0000-00-01 00:00:00&quot; ;
        double time_bnds(nv, time) ;
        float sst(lon, lat, time) ;
                sst:long_name = &quot;Monthly 1 degree resolution SST&quot; ;
                sst:standard_name = &quot;sea_surface_temperature&quot; ;
                sst:units = &quot;degC&quot; ;
                sst:add_offset = 0 ;
                sst:cell_methods = &quot;time: lat: lon: mean&quot; ;
                sst:scale_factor = 1 ;
                sst:_FillValue = -1e+30 ;
                sst:missing_value = -1e+30 ;
                sst:actual_range = -1.834.76296 ;
                sst:description = &quot;HadISST 1.1 monthly average sea surface temperature&quot; ;

// global attributes:
                :Conventions = &quot;CF-1.0&quot; ;
                :title = &quot;Monthly version of HadISST sea surface temperature component&quot; ;
                :institution = &quot;Met Office, Hadley Centre for Climate Research&quot; ;
                :source = &quot;HadISST&quot; ;
                :history = &quot;09/11/2006 HadISST converted to NetCDF from pp format by John Kennedy&quot; ;
                :references = &quot;Rayner, N. A., Parker, D. E., Horton, E. B., Folland, C. K., Alexander, L. V., Rowell, D. P., Kent, E. C., Kaplan, A.  Global analyses of sea surface temperature, sea ice, and night marine air temperature since the late nineteenth century J. Geophys. Res.Vol. 108, No. D14, 4407 10.1029/2002JD002670&quot; ;
                :comment = &quot;Data restrictions: for academic research use only. Data are Crown copyright see (http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm)&quot; ;
                :supplementary_information = &quot;Updates and supplementary information will be available from http://www.hadobs.org&quot; ;
                :contact = &quot;j&quot; ;
&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One interesting thing: the file uncompressed using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=5570&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&#039;s method&lt;/a&gt; is only 1/4 the size it should be:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
ls -lh
total 720M
-rw-r--r-- 1 me me 206M May  5 08:30 HadISST_sst.nc.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 me me 100M Jun  2 20:38 temp.nc
-rw-r--r-- 1 me me 414M Jun  2 20:35 ucHadISST_sst.nc
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder if this is also an accident of using Linux.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no problems opening these under 64-bit Linux.  I&#8217;m not sure that it&#8217;s the 64-bitness that fixes things, though, so I&#8217;m going to try 32-bit Linux next.  I used a package called &#8220;RNetCDF&#8221; instead of &#8220;ncdf&#8221; at first.  Both R extensions opened the files without problems:</p>
<blockquote><p>
R version 2.8.1 (2008-12-22)<br />
Copyright (C) 2008 The R Foundation for Statistical Computing<br />
ISBN 3-900051-07-0<br />
&#8230;<br />
&gt; gz  data  close(gz)<br />
&gt; tempfile  writeBin(data, tempfile)<br />
&gt; close(tempfile)<br />
&gt; library(ncdf)<br />
&gt; nc  nc2  library(RNetCDF)<br />
&gt; nc3  nc4  print.ncdf(nc)<br />
[1] &#8220;file temp.nc has 4 dimensions:&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;lon   Size: 360&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;lat   Size: 180&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;time   Size: 1671&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;nv   Size: 2&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;file temp.nc has 2 variables:&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;double time_bnds[nv,time]  Longname:time_bnds Missval:1e+30&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;float sst[lon,lat,time]  Longname:Monthly 1 degree resolution SST Missval:-1.00000001504747e+30&#8243;<br />
&gt; print.ncdf(nc2)<br />
[1] &#8220;file ucHadISST_sst.nc has 4 dimensions:&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;lon   Size: 360&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;lat   Size: 180&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;time   Size: 1671&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;nv   Size: 2&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;file ucHadISST_sst.nc has 2 variables:&#8221;<br />
[1] &#8220;double time_bnds[nv,time]  Longname:time_bnds Missval:1e+30&#8243;<br />
[1] &#8220;float sst[lon,lat,time]  Longname:Monthly 1 degree resolution SST Missval:-1.00000001504747e+30&#8243;<br />
&gt; print.nc(nc3)<br />
dimensions:<br />
        lon = 360 ;<br />
        lat = 180 ;<br />
        time = 1671 ;<br />
        nv = 2 ;<br />
variables:<br />
        float lon(lon) ;<br />
                lon:long_name = &#8220;Longitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:standard_name = &#8220;longitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:units = &#8220;degrees_east&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:actual_range = -179.5179.5 ;<br />
        float lat(lat) ;<br />
                lat:long_name = &#8220;Latitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:standard_name = &#8220;latitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:units = &#8220;degrees_north&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:actual_range = -89.589.5 ;<br />
        double time(time) ;<br />
                time:long_name = &#8220;Time&#8221; ;<br />
                time:bounds = &#8220;time_bnds&#8221; ;<br />
                time:standard_name = &#8220;time&#8221; ;<br />
                time:units = &#8220;hours since 1-1-1 00:00:0.0&#8243; ;<br />
                time:actual_range = 1638336017603232 ;<br />
                time:delta_t = &#8220;0000-00-01 00:00:00&#8243; ;<br />
        double time_bnds(nv, time) ;<br />
        float sst(lon, lat, time) ;<br />
                sst:long_name = &#8220;Monthly 1 degree resolution SST&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:standard_name = &#8220;sea_surface_temperature&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:units = &#8220;degC&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:add_offset = 0 ;<br />
                sst:cell_methods = &#8220;time: lat: lon: mean&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:scale_factor = 1 ;<br />
                sst:_FillValue = -1e+30 ;<br />
                sst:missing_value = -1e+30 ;<br />
                sst:actual_range = -1.834.76296 ;<br />
                sst:description = &#8220;HadISST 1.1 monthly average sea surface temperature&#8221; ;</p>
<p>// global attributes:<br />
                :Conventions = &#8220;CF-1.0&#8243; ;<br />
                :title = &#8220;Monthly version of HadISST sea surface temperature component&#8221; ;<br />
                :institution = &#8220;Met Office, Hadley Centre for Climate Research&#8221; ;<br />
                :source = &#8220;HadISST&#8221; ;<br />
                :history = &#8220;09/11/2006 HadISST converted to NetCDF from pp format by John Kennedy&#8221; ;<br />
                :references = &#8220;Rayner, N. A., Parker, D. E., Horton, E. B., Folland, C. K., Alexander, L. V., Rowell, D. P., Kent, E. C., Kaplan, A.  Global analyses of sea surface temperature, sea ice, and night marine air temperature since the late nineteenth century J. Geophys. Res.Vol. 108, No. D14, 4407 10.1029/2002JD002670&#8243; ;<br />
                :comment = &#8220;Data restrictions: for academic research use only. Data are Crown copyright see (<a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm</a>)&#8221; ;<br />
                :supplementary_information = &#8220;Updates and supplementary information will be available from <a href="http://www.hadobs.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.hadobs.org</a>&#8221; ;<br />
                :contact = &#8220;j&#8221; ;<br />
&gt; print.nc(nc4)<br />
dimensions:<br />
        lon = 360 ;<br />
        lat = 180 ;<br />
        time = 1671 ;<br />
        nv = 2 ;<br />
variables:<br />
        float lon(lon) ;<br />
                lon:long_name = &#8220;Longitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:standard_name = &#8220;longitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:units = &#8220;degrees_east&#8221; ;<br />
                lon:actual_range = -179.5179.5 ;<br />
        float lat(lat) ;<br />
                lat:long_name = &#8220;Latitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:standard_name = &#8220;latitude&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:units = &#8220;degrees_north&#8221; ;<br />
                lat:actual_range = -89.589.5 ;<br />
        double time(time) ;<br />
                time:long_name = &#8220;Time&#8221; ;<br />
                time:bounds = &#8220;time_bnds&#8221; ;<br />
                time:standard_name = &#8220;time&#8221; ;<br />
                time:units = &#8220;hours since 1-1-1 00:00:0.0&#8243; ;<br />
                time:actual_range = 1638336017603232 ;<br />
                time:delta_t = &#8220;0000-00-01 00:00:00&#8243; ;<br />
        double time_bnds(nv, time) ;<br />
        float sst(lon, lat, time) ;<br />
                sst:long_name = &#8220;Monthly 1 degree resolution SST&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:standard_name = &#8220;sea_surface_temperature&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:units = &#8220;degC&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:add_offset = 0 ;<br />
                sst:cell_methods = &#8220;time: lat: lon: mean&#8221; ;<br />
                sst:scale_factor = 1 ;<br />
                sst:_FillValue = -1e+30 ;<br />
                sst:missing_value = -1e+30 ;<br />
                sst:actual_range = -1.834.76296 ;<br />
                sst:description = &#8220;HadISST 1.1 monthly average sea surface temperature&#8221; ;</p>
<p>// global attributes:<br />
                :Conventions = &#8220;CF-1.0&#8243; ;<br />
                :title = &#8220;Monthly version of HadISST sea surface temperature component&#8221; ;<br />
                :institution = &#8220;Met Office, Hadley Centre for Climate Research&#8221; ;<br />
                :source = &#8220;HadISST&#8221; ;<br />
                :history = &#8220;09/11/2006 HadISST converted to NetCDF from pp format by John Kennedy&#8221; ;<br />
                :references = &#8220;Rayner, N. A., Parker, D. E., Horton, E. B., Folland, C. K., Alexander, L. V., Rowell, D. P., Kent, E. C., Kaplan, A.  Global analyses of sea surface temperature, sea ice, and night marine air temperature since the late nineteenth century J. Geophys. Res.Vol. 108, No. D14, 4407 10.1029/2002JD002670&#8243; ;<br />
                :comment = &#8220;Data restrictions: for academic research use only. Data are Crown copyright see (<a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opsi.gov.uk/advice/crown-copyright/copyright-guidance/index.htm</a>)&#8221; ;<br />
                :supplementary_information = &#8220;Updates and supplementary information will be available from <a href="http://www.hadobs.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.hadobs.org</a>&#8221; ;<br />
                :contact = &#8220;j&#8221; ;<br />
&gt;
</p></blockquote>
<p>One interesting thing: the file uncompressed using <a href="http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=5570" rel="nofollow">Steve&#8217;s method</a> is only 1/4 the size it should be:</p>
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ls -lh<br />
total 720M<br />
-rw-r&#8211;r&#8211; 1 me me 206M May  5 08:30 HadISST_sst.nc.gz<br />
-rw-r&#8211;r&#8211; 1 me me 100M Jun  2 20:38 temp.nc<br />
-rw-r&#8211;r&#8211; 1 me me 414M Jun  2 20:35 ucHadISST_sst.nc
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<p>I wonder if this is also an accident of using Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea of uploading code is ridiculous.  All we&#039;re talking about here is making data available.  No need to upload code any more than there&#039;s a need to upload code to Gmail to read your messages.

There are lots of publicly available APIs on the web today.  There are all sorts of ways of rate-limiting access to prevent denial of service attacks.  Any security person that&#039;s actually technically competent and not just  a big-company bureaucrat knows about them and can implement them easily and quickly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of uploading code is ridiculous.  All we&#8217;re talking about here is making data available.  No need to upload code any more than there&#8217;s a need to upload code to Gmail to read your messages.</p>
<p>There are lots of publicly available APIs on the web today.  There are all sorts of ways of rate-limiting access to prevent denial of service attacks.  Any security person that&#8217;s actually technically competent and not just  a big-company bureaucrat knows about them and can implement them easily and quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: jeez</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jeez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talked to Moshpit about this. Security concerns aside, creating an API that allows people to essentially write their own sql statements opens the system to not only abuse, but the potential for poorly written scripts or queries to peg the CPUs bringing the system to its knees. It is not practical.

Mosh considers this a challenge to idiot proof an API.

Mosh, you have more pertinent things to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to Moshpit about this. Security concerns aside, creating an API that allows people to essentially write their own sql statements opens the system to not only abuse, but the potential for poorly written scripts or queries to peg the CPUs bringing the system to its knees. It is not practical.</p>
<p>Mosh considers this a challenge to idiot proof an API.</p>
<p>Mosh, you have more pertinent things to.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Strand</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Strand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Why? The data can be read-only.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Allowing access to hardware and software resources to individuals outside the institution tends to make security people very nervous. The concept of a user uploading their own code into the system just won&#039;t be allowed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why? The data can be read-only.</p></blockquote>
<p>Allowing access to hardware and software resources to individuals outside the institution tends to make security people very nervous. The concept of a user uploading their own code into the system just won&#8217;t be allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Sure</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Sure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-343642&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gary Strand (#16)&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;blockquote&gt;That&#039;s likely to create a security headache.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why?  The data can be read-only.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-343642" rel="nofollow">Gary Strand (#16)</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>That&#8217;s likely to create a security headache.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why?  The data can be read-only.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Strand</title>
		<link>http://climateaudit.org/2009/05/29/another-bouquet-for-gerd-at-knmi/#comment-184200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Strand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-343635&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;steven mosher (#15)&lt;/a&gt;,
&quot;They should just expose an interface to the database and let people write there own extraction/analysis/graphical packages.&quot;

That&#039;s likely to create a security headache.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: <a href="#comment-343635" rel="nofollow">steven mosher (#15)</a>,<br />
&#8220;They should just expose an interface to the database and let people write there own extraction/analysis/graphical packages.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s likely to create a security headache.</p>
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