Comments on: Sea Ice – June 2009

By: romanm

romanm — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:40:14 +0000

Earle's idea is a good one. Please continue these discussions at the Sea Ice - August 2009 thread.

By: Phil.

Phil. — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:30:02 +0000

Re: Shawn Whelan (#346), Bear in mind that Shawn has a rather different definition of 'many' and 'open' wrt the NW Passage than most people.

The Passage has been open many times in history. The propoganda spewed by these sailors and the MSM tries to twists things as if this the first time in history a boat could sail through the passage. The first ship went to Cambridge Bay in the early 1850's. Doesn't look like these boats will make it that far after a 150 plus years of AGW.

I should think they'll both make Cambridge Bay in a couple of weeks and Gjoa Havn too, then they just need a bit of luck going north.

By: Earle Williams

Earle Williams — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:28:28 +0000

Shawn et al, Steve has created a new Sea Ice page. You may wish to continue your discussions there... Sea Ice - August 2009

By: Shawn Whelan

Shawn Whelan — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:24:16 +0000

Re: Neven (#344),
The Passage has been open many times in history. snip The first ship went to Cambridge Bay in the early 1850′s. Doesn’t look like these boats will make it that far after a 150 plus years of AGW.

The goal of this carbon-neutral voyage through the Northwest
Passage is to use written word, video and photos to tell the story of how climate change is affecting Arctic communities

http://www.openpassageexpedition.com/

http://www.aroundtheamericas.org/portal/Education

How come nobody is kayaking to the North Pole this year?

Steve: PLEASE stop this sort of angry language.

By: Neven

Neven — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:49:19 +0000

Sorry, I meant 2007 and 2008.

By: Neven

Neven — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:40:22 +0000

Shawn, don’t be so paranoid. Many of the people on those boats could be there for the kick. I know plenty of people in the sailing world who’d just love to go on an adventure and try to sail the NW passage, especially given the fact it was open in 2008 and 2009.

And the MSM is propaganda crap, whether AGW is true or not.

By: Shawn Whelan

Shawn Whelan — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:17:09 +0000

All those boats believed that the Arctic had turned into the Carribean. They will be very lucky to make it through this year, and that just ruins an AGW propoganda vacation. More ice in the Passage in 2009 than in 1819. Some global warming.

Likely not a peep about this in the MSM.

By: Carlo

Carlo — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:25:14 +0000

Northwest Passage 2009 Race
By
Blake August
Northwest Passage Dreamer

http://trawlercrawler.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=103

By: Carlo

Carlo — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:19:57 +0000

AUGUST 5, 2009

Fiona arrived Resolute on 4 Aug, position 74 41N, 94 53W.
The ice in the south part of the NW Passage is still very thick and the local experts are not sure if, or when, it might break up.
We will wait here for a week or so for developments.
Russ is signing off in early Sept, of couse I am not yet sure where, depends on the Passage opening or not.
But I will need a replacement crew. Anyone interested in details please contact Eric via email.
http://www.yachtfiona.com/fnn.htm

By: Michael Jennings

Michael Jennings — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:54:52 +0000

Re: Steve McIntyre (#332),
Steve, I bet you won’t call me to pick the lottery numbers for you!(not if you expect to win that is) My predictions have been uniformly bad on this thread.