Comments on: HadISST- June 2009 Values

By: Johan i Kanada

Johan i Kanada — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:23:44 +0000

Has the HadCRUT3 global (land & ocean) monthly average temp anomaly for June been released yet? (I have not been able to find it.)

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:46:20 +0000

Freezing New Zealand Winter and Children die in harsh Peru winter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146995.stm

There is an interesting graph on WUWT on the June anomaly.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/14/giss-for-june-way-out-there/#more-9349

By: Pofarmer

Pofarmer — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:19:54 +0000

So, I have a question. Are these anomalies being driven by high temperatures or low temperatures?

By: James A. Donald

James A. Donald — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:26:04 +0000

It has been a relatively cool Australian winter, and if the weather reports say different, they are lying.

It looks to me as if global warming has suddenly relocated to places where there are few people to say it is not happening. Much like the Medieval Climatic Optimum only occurred where there records.

By: stephen richards

stephen richards — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:26:31 +0000

The ISST pulse may well be showing now in the latest satelite temperatures. See here at Phil Spencer’s site

http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/

By: Craig Loehle

Craig Loehle — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:37:39 +0000

Re: Geoff Sherrington (#34), Far from meaning any offense, I am impressed with the number of aussies involved here vs the size of the country, and the same holds in my field of Ecology where I often cite Oz scientists. Spent a few weeks in Perth and loved it.

By: Geoff Sherrington

Geoff Sherrington — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:36:44 +0000

Re: Craig Loehle (#26), Written in the nicest possible way in deference to your past contributions, a few Aussies are suggesting that certain interpretative problems arise and grow in USA. (We had a Vice-Presidential event here yesterday). To be fair, the USA also provides satellites etc upon which we rely, as well as much good information. There are global mechanisms whose explanation can benefit from more SH input. Some hobby horse examples now. The geographical inconsistency of the 1998 temperature peak is one. A 40-year warming of the inland of Australia faster than the coast also seems possible. There are patterns between the divergence or convergence of Tmax and Tmin over the years. These topics are temperature-related. There are other diverse ones also.

By: John K. Sutherland.

John K. Sutherland. — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:45:22 +0000

Webster Hubble telescope person. The world is not short of oil. It is not even short of cheap oil at this moment. Oil shales and tar sands contain multiples of the oil resource contained in the near East. At prices over $70/barrel it is exploitable if politicians would get out of the way.

The most recent of my articles here covers some of this.

http://www.energypulse.net/centers/author.cfm?at_id=283

John.

By: bender

bender — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:18:38 +0000

Re: bender (#30), Follow-up to the OP. The AGW "fingerprint" won't show a "big red spot" in any short-range snapshot (monthly, yearly). At these ultra short time scales the background natural variability will overwhelm the spatial pattern of long-term GHG response. IMO that's what the June 2009 snapshot shows: a new pattern of anomaly. It'll persist for a while and then break down.

By: Carl

Carl — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:14:20 +0000

“The preliminary June 2009 HadISST results are a bit of a surprise given that prior RSS results showed a relatively cool June 2009.”
It takes a few months for SST to manifest themselves in lower tropospheric temps.

Look at the past week; the warm anomalies seem to be fading: http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/cmb/sst_analysis/.