CRU Refuses Data Once Again

Let me review the request situation for readers. There are two institutions involved in the present round of FOI/EIR requests: CRU and the Met Office. Phil Jones of CRU collects station data and sends his “value added” version to the Met Office, who publish the HadCRU combined land-and-ocean index and also distribute the CRUTEM series online.

I requested a copy of the “value added” version from the Met Office (marion.archer at metoffice.uk.gov) which has been refused for excuses provided in my last post. On June 25, 2009, learning that Phil Jones had sent a copy of the station data to Peter Webster of Georgia Tech, I sent a new FOI request to CRU ( david.palmer at uea.ac.uk) requesting the data in the form sent to Peter Webster. This too was refused today.

We now have a new excuse to add to our collection of excuses – each excuse seemingly more ridiculous than the previous one.

My most recent request was as follows:

Dear Mr Palmer,

Pursuant to the Environmental Information Regulations, I hereby request a copy of any digital version of the CRUTEM station data set that has been sent from CRU to Peter Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and Jun 25, 2009.

Thank you for your attention,

Stephen McIntyre

The full response was as follows. (I’ve included full address particulars for readers that may wish to follow up):

Dear Mr McIntyre

ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION REGULATIONS 2004 – INFORMATION REQUEST (FOI_09-44; EIR_09-03)

Your request for information received on 26 June 2009 has now been considered and it is, unfortunately, not possible to meet all of your request.

In accordance with Regulation 14 of the Environmental Information Regulations 2004 this letter acts as a partial Refusal Notice, and I am not obliged to supply this information and the reasons for exemption are as stated below:

 Exception  Reason
 Reg. 12(5)(f) – Adverse effect on the person providing information  Information is covered by a confidentiality agreement

Regulation 12(5)(f) applies because the information requested was received by the University on terms that prevent further transmission to non-academics

Regulation 12(1)(b) mandates that we consider the public interest in any decision to release or refuse information under Regulation 12(4). In this case, we feel that there is a strong public interest in upholding contract terms governing the use of received information. To not do so would be to potentially risk the loss of access to such data in future.

I apologise that not all of your request will be met but if you have any further information needs in the future then please contact me.

If you have any queries or concerns, or, if you are dissatisfied with the handling of your request please contact me at:
University of East Anglia
Norwich
NR4 7TJ
Telephone: 0160 393 523
E-mail: foi AT uea.ac.uk

You also have the right of appeal against the decision. If you wish to appeal please set out in writing your grounds of appeal and send to me at the same address as noted above.

Subsequent to our determination of your appeal, you also have a further right of appeal to the Information Commissioner at:
Information Commissioner’s Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire
SK9 5AF
Telephone: 01625 545 700
http://www.ico.gov.uk

Yours sincerely
David Palmer
Information Policy and Compliance Manager
University of East Anglia

This is the first time that we’ve heard that their supposed confidentiality agreements merely restrict “further transmission to non-academics”. A couple of observations on this. I’m sure that CRU will soon receive a similar request from someone to whom this excuse does not apply.

However, aside from that, there are other troubling aspects to this refusal. If there actually are confidentiality agreements, I would expect the relevant language to be framed in terms of “academic use” as opposed to guild membership i.e. I’d be surprised if the language were framed in terms of institutional affiliation as opposed to use. I’ve published relevant articles in peer reviewed literature, acted as an IPCC reviewer, been cited in IPCC AR4, been invited to present to a NAS panel – my use of data is “academic” by any legal standard.

Secondly, over at the Met Office, they say “it cannot be determined which countries or stations data were given in confidence as records were not kept.” But over at CRU, they purport to “know” nuanced details of the contractual language of the confidentiality agreements – clauses that have the effect of justifying the refusal of the data.


169 Comments

  1. Luis Dias
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM | Permalink | Reply

    You could simply ask any climatologist friend of yours to ask for this stuff.

    And then print it all over the web.

    Anarchy now!! :D

  2. AnonyMoose
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:23 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I reckon that it’s our turn. We former subjects of the King should ask Georgia Tech for a copy of the confidentiality agreement so we can see just what the nuances are.

  3. Your Mom
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:37 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Is the data truly confidential for important reasons? Or is it confidential because they fear what it shows?

    They obviously don’t believe in sharing. Which is too bad. They’re the kids on the playground all alone with a toy. And we’re the bully who wants it back!

    • Craig Loehle
      Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Your Mom (#3), It isn’t “their” toy: we paid for it. Share.

    • Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Your Mom (#3),

      They’re the kids on the playground all alone with a toy. And we’re the bully who wants it back!

      It’s more like “You paid for this toy, and I know it’s extremely important, but you can’t have it.”

      I think it’s about time West Anglia invaded East Anglia, then maybe this nonsense will stop.

    • MikeU
      Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Your Mom (#3),

      I’m sure the reasons are important to Phil Jones, but that’s not really the standard that should be applied to publicly funded data. The reasons that seem most likely are A) releasing the data would undercut some sort of revenue he’s deriving from the data, B) he’s hiding something he doesn’t want exposed, or C) he’s afraid someone at Climate Audit or elsewhere is going to discover something which will harm him professionally.

      I hope Ross McKitrick is working on a request for that data as we speak… he’s an “academic” and is also published in this field, so they’d clearly have to make up some new excuses in order to deny his request.

  4. Jonathan
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:14 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve just send an identical request to David Palmer. I’m a UK academic by any conceivable definition, so I will be interested to see what excuse he comes up with this time.

    Re Hulme 1996, as I said on the other thread I’m pretty sure this is a misprint for Hulme 1994, which is a discussion of the costs and bureaucracy involved in acquiring climate data from various countries.

  5. Bob Koss
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:41 AM | Permalink | Reply

    This folder has a list of 288 countries/states/territories which send weather information under the WMO World Weather Watch Program. Might be useful as a reference for FOIing data in bite-size groups.

  6. MarkB
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Christopher Booker of the Telegraph links to this site – someone should ring his bell and see if he’d give some publicity to Steve’s efforts.

    • MarkB
      Posted Aug 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: MarkB (#9),

      Apparently, Christopher Booker of the Telegraph heard my call and wrote on this topic:

  7. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I sent the following follow-up today:

    Dear Mr Palmer,

    I am not satisfied with your response to my request.

    In your letter, you stated that the “Information is covered by a confidentiality agreement” and that the terms of this(these) agreements “prevent further transmission to non-academics”.

    I requested the data for academic purposes. I have published relevant articles in peer-reviewed literature; I was a reviewer for the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report; I have been invited to make presentations to a panel of the US National Research Council, at a Union session of the American Geophysical Union and to several universities. I undertake that my use of the data will be for “academic” and not commercial use. In addition, it is my expectation that any restrictive language in the relevant confidentiality agreements will apply only to the “use” of the data and my use is academic; I doubt that the restrictive language is explicitly framed in terms of affiliation. Accordingly, I request that you review the actual restrictive language in the various confidentiality agreements and, if the language, as I surmise, pertains to “use”, I request that you re-consider your decision and provide the requested data.

    In addition, I hereby make a separate FOI request in in respect to the confidentiality agreement(s) upon which you based your decision for the following countries: Canada, United States, Australia, U.K., and Brazil:

    1. the date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
    2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”.
    4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement,

    Thank you for your attention.

    Yours truly,

    Stephen McIntyre

  8. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I suggest that interested readers can participate by choosing 5 countries and sending the following FOI request to david.palmer at uea.ac.uk:

    Dear Mr Palmer,

    I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements)restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involing the following countries: [insert 5 or so countries that are different from ones already requested]

    1. the date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
    2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”.
    4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement,

    I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.

    Thank you for your attention.

    Yours truly,

    yourname

    If you do so, please post up a copy of your letter so that we can keep track of requested countries.

  9. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM | Permalink | Reply

    A CA reader notified me offline that he requested agreements involving Russia, China, India. I already requested Canada, United States, Australia, U.K., and Brazil.

    Please keep adding to the inventory of FOI requests to CRU.

    • tony ridgway
      Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Steve McIntyre (#12), Dear Mr Palmer,
      I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements)restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involing the following countries: [insert 5 or so countries that are different from ones already requested]
      1. the date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
      2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
      3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”.
      4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement,
      I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.
      Thank you for your attention.
      Yours truly
      tony ridgway

  10. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Ross McKitrick sent the following request to CRU:

    Pursuant to the Environmental Information Regulations, I hereby make an EIR/FOI request for the following information in respect to any confidentiality agreements affecting CRUTEM station data involving station data in France, Germany, Italy, Austria and the Ukraine:

    1. the date of such agreement;
    2. the parties to the agreement;
    3. a copy of that part of the agreement that prevents further transmission of the data to non-academics
    4. a copy of the entire agreement

    I am requesting this information as part of my academic research.

    Thank you for your attention,

    Ross McKitrick

    We’re up to 13 countries now. This won’t take long.

  11. Ross McKitrick
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I just sent the following in as well

    Dear Mr Palmer,

    Pursuant to the Environmental Information Regulations, I hereby request:

    1. A copy of any digital version of the CRUTEM station data set that has been sent from CRU to Peter Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and June 25, 2009

    2. A copy of any instructions or stipulations accompanying the transmission of data to Peter Webster and/or any other person at Georgia Tech between January 1, 2007 and June 25, 2009 limiting its further dissemination or disclosure.

    I write as an academic with publications in peer-reviewed journals and an ongoing research program on the subject of surface climate measurement. With respect to #2, please be aware that restrictions on data disclosure may disqualify any research arising from this data set from being published in many peer-reviewed journals, therefore I require a complete response as to whether any such instructions accompanied the data.

    Thank you for your attention,

    Ross McKitrick

  12. Fred
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:47 AM | Permalink | Reply

    The replies you are getting back are like scripts from the “Yes Minister” TV series.

    Steve: Of course, they are. But two can play that game. Please send your own FOI request for 5 countries of your choice.

  13. Joeshill
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM | Permalink | Reply

    This seems a great response, but I’m wondering about another side to this.

    How does it generally work at a university or research institution when a researcher makes a binding agreement on behalf of the institution? In the real world, these kinds of agreements generally require a sign-off by upper management/company officers, so that the company knows about and can track any obligations that they have. I’ve had some low-level experience with my local state university, and every dealing that I’ve had that required a signature by a researcher also had to be signed off on by upper management as well, and once fully executed by all parties, copies were sent to each signatory and kept on file at the university.

    It seems inconceivable to me that CRU or UEA or MET could be a party to a binding agreement and nobody at the institution can find a paper trail.

    Or is my experience the exception?

  14. mpaul
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:20 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I just went alphabetically from the top of this list and requested ARUBA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ASCENSION ISLAND.

    —————–

    Pursuant to the Environmental Information Regulations, I hereby make an EIR/FOI request for any confidentiality agreements covering CRUTEM station data involving station data in ARUBA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ASCENSION ISLAND.

    1. the date of such agreement;
    2. the parties to the agreement;
    3. a copy of that part of the agreement that prevents further distribution of the data to non-academics
    4. a copy of the entire agreement

    I am requesting this information for academic research purposes.

    Thank you for your attention,

  15. Soronel Haetir
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Steve,

    At some point you need to quit fumbling around with these low level requests that are routinely denied and pursue the appeals process.

    Steve: Submit your own FOI request and carry out your own appeal.

  16. mpaul
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM | Permalink | Reply

    OK, hold on, lets think about this a bit. It seems to me that this “thing” is operating more like a general license than a simple confidentiality agreement. (A confidentiality agreement is a form of a license, but is generally more narrow in scope). Its not uncommon to license data and restrict its use for academic (as opposed to commercial) purposes. I think we should change the wording of the request. Where we had been saying “I hereby make an EIR/FOI request for any confidentiality agreements…” I think we should say: “I hereby make an EIR/FOI request for any agreements …”.

    Steve: They used the term “confidentiality agreement.” Let’s stick to that. Widening the scope opens up more possible excuses. If the present language fails for some reason, we can always do it all over again with wider language

  17. Derek Walton
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’m in for Zimbabwe, Zaire, Angola, South Africa and Botswana.

  18. James H
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:43 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I can predict the reply already:
    “I’m sorry, but the terms and names of parties within the confidential agreement are confidential”.

  19. Craig Loehle
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:53 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I would not be surprised if the “confidentiality agreements” are entirely informal and not written down. Like when Dr. Smith passes data to Dr. Lewis with the request that he not pass it further.

  20. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Post of those remaining.

    After you FOI, copy this list. Remove those you requested and repost.

    AJ AZERBAIJAN
    AL ALBANIA
    AM ARMENIA
    AN ANDORRA

    AQ AMERICAN SAMOA
    AR ARGENTINA

    AT ASHMORE AND CARTIER ISLANDS

    AV ANGUILLA
    AX ANTIGUA, ST. KITTS, NEVIS, BARBUDA
    AY ANTARCTICA
    AZ AZORES
    BA BAHRAIN
    BB BARBADOS
    BC BOTSWANA
    BD BERMUDA
    BE BELGIUM
    BF BAHAMAS THE
    BG BANGLADESH
    BH BELIZE
    BK BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
    BL BOLIVIA
    BM BURMA
    BN BENIN
    BO BELARUS
    BP SOLOMON ISLANDS
    BQ NAVASSA ISLAND

    BS BASSAS DA INDIA
    BT BHUTAN
    BU BULGARIA
    BV BOUVET ISLAND
    BX BRUNEI
    BY BURUNDI
    BZ BELGIUM AND LUXEMBOURG

    CB CAMBODIA
    CC CEUTA AND MELILLA
    CD CHAD
    CE SRI LANKA
    CF CONGO
    CG ZAIRE

    CI CHILE
    CJ CAYMAN ISLANDS
    CK COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS
    CL CAROLINE ISLANDS
    CM CAMEROON
    CN COMOROS
    CO COLOMBIA
    CP CANARY ISLANDS
    CQ NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS
    CR CORAL SEA ISLANDS
    CS COSTA RICA
    CT CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CU CUBA
    CV CAPE VERDE
    CW COOK ISLANDS
    CY CYPRUS
    CZ CANTON ISLAND
    DA DENMARK
    DJ DJIBOUTI
    DO DOMINICA
    DQ JARVIS ISLAND
    DR DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
    DY DEMOCRATIC YEMEN
    EC ECUADOR
    EG EGYPT
    EI IRELAND
    EK EQUATORIAL GUINEA
    EN ESTONIA
    ER ERITREA
    ES EL SALVADOR
    ET ETHIOPIA
    EU EUROPA ISLAND
    EZ CZECH REPUBLIC
    FG FRENCH GUIANA
    FI FINLAND
    FJ FIJI
    FK FALKLAND ISLANDS (ISLAS MALVINAS)
    FM MICRONESIA, FEDERATED STATES OF
    FO FAROE ISLANDS
    FP FRENCH POLYNESIA
    FQ BAKER ISLAND

    FS FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GA GAMBIA THE
    GB GABON
    GG GEORGIA
    GH GHANA
    GI GIBRALTAR
    GJ GRENADA
    GK GUERNSEY
    GL GREENLAND

    GO GLORIOSO ISLANDS
    GP GUADELOUPE
    GQ GUAM
    GR GREECE
    GT GUATEMALA
    GV GUINEA
    GY GUYANA
    GZ GAZA STRIP
    HA HAITI
    HK HONG KONG
    HM HEARD ISLAND AND MCDONALD ISLANDS
    HO HONDURAS
    HQ HOWLAND ISLAND
    HR CROATIA
    HU HUNGARY
    IC ICELAND
    ID INDONESIA
    IM MAN ISLE OF

    IO BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY
    IP CLIPPERTON ISLAND
    IR IRAN
    IS ISRAEL

    IV COTE D’IVOIRE
    IW ISRAEL-JORDAN DMZ
    IZ IRAQ
    JA JAPAN
    JE JERSEY
    JM JAMAICA
    JN JAN MAYEN
    JO JORDAN
    JQ JOHNSTON ATOLL
    JU JUAN DE NOVA ISLAND
    KE KENYA
    KG KYRGYZSTAN
    KN KOREA, NORTH
    KQ KINGMAN REEF
    KR KIRIBATI
    KS KOREA, SOUTH
    KT CHRISTMAS ISLAND
    KU KUWAIT
    KZ KAZAKHSTAN
    LA LAOS
    LC ST. LUCIA AND ST. VINCENT
    LE LEBANON
    LG LATVIA
    LH LITHUANIA
    LI LIBERIA
    LN SOUTHERN LINE ISLANDS
    LO SLOVAKIA
    LQ PALMYRA ATOLL
    LS LIECHTENSTEIN
    LT LESOTHO
    LU LUXEMBOURG
    LY LIBYA
    MA MADAGASCAR
    MB MARTINIQUE
    MC MACAU
    MD MOLDOVA
    ME MADEIRA
    MF MAYOTTE
    MG MONGOLIA
    MH MONTSERRAT
    MI MALAWI
    MK MACEDONIA
    ML MALI
    MM BURMA (MYANMAR)
    MN MONACO
    MO MOROCCO
    MP MAURITIUS
    MQ MIDWAY ISLANDS
    MR MAURITANIA
    MT MALTA
    MU OMAN
    MV MALDIVES
    MW MONTENEGRO
    MX MEXICO
    MY MALAYSIA
    MZ MOZAMBIQUE
    NC NEW CALEDONIA
    NE NIUE
    NF NORFOLK ISLAND
    NG NIGER
    NH VANUATU
    NI NIGERIA
    NL NETHERLANDS
    NO NORWAY
    NP NEPAL
    NR NAURU
    NS SURINAME
    NT NETHERLANDS ANTILLES
    NU NICARAGUA
    NZ NEW ZEALAND
    OW OCEAN WEATHER STATIONS
    PA PARAGUAY
    PC PITCAIRN ISLANDS
    PE PERU
    PF PARACEL ISLANDS
    PG SPRATLY ISLANDS
    PI PHOENIX ISLANDS
    PK PAKISTAN
    PL POLAND
    PM PANAMA
    PN NORTH PACIFIC ISLANDS
    PO PORTUGAL
    PP PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PS PALAU – TRUST TERRITORY OF THE PACIFIC ISLANDS
    PU GUINEA-BISSAU
    PZ SOUTH PACIFIC ISLANDS
    QA QATAR
    RE REUNION AND ASSOCIATED ISLANDS
    RM MARSHALL ISLANDS
    RO ROMANIA
    RP PHILIPPINES
    RQ PUERTO RICO

    RW RWANDA
    SA SAUDI ARABIA
    SB ST. PIERRE AND MIQUELON
    SC ST. KITTS AND NEVIS
    SE SEYCHELLES
    SF SOUTH AFRICA
    SG SENEGAL
    SH ST. HELENA
    SI SLOVENIA
    SK SARAWAK AND SABA
    SL SIERRA LEONE
    SM SAN MARINO
    SN SINGAPORE
    SO SOMALIA
    SP SPAIN
    SR SERBIA
    SS ST. MAARTEN
    ST ST. LUCIA
    SU SUDAN
    SV SVALBARD
    SW SWEDEN
    SX SOUTH GEORGIA AND THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS
    SY SYRIA
    SZ SWITZERLAND
    TC UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
    TD TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TE TROMELIN ISLAND
    TH THAILAND
    TI TAJIKISTAN
    TK TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS
    TL TOKELAU
    TN TONGA
    TO TOGO
    TP SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE
    TS TUNISIA
    TU TURKEY
    TV TUVALU
    TW TAIWAN
    TX TURKMENISTAN
    TZ TANZANIA
    UA FORMER USSR (ASIA)
    UE FORMER USSR (EUROPE)
    UG UGANDA

    UV BURKINA FASO
    UY URUGUAY
    UZ UZBEKISTAN
    VC ST. VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES
    VE VENEZUELA
    VI VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH)
    VM VIETNAM
    VQ VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.)
    VT VATICAN CITY
    WA NAMIBIA
    WE WEST BANK
    WF WALLIS AND FUTUNA
    WI WESTERN SAHARA
    WQ WAKE ISLAND
    WS WESTERN SAMOA
    WZ SWAZILAND
    YM YEMEN
    YU YUGOSLAVIA (& FORMER TERRITORY)
    YY ST. MARTEEN, ST. EUSTATIUS, AND SABA
    ZA ZAMBIA
    ZI ZIMBABWE
    ZM SAMOA
    ZZ ST. MARTIN AND ST. BARTHOLOMEW

  21. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:05 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Armenia
    Azerbaijan
    Belarus
    Estonia
    Georgia

    and blogged on An Englishman’s Castle

  22. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:16 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Just did these

    NIGERIA,NETHERLANDS, NORWAY, NEPAL,NAURU

  23. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Re 22. Chris I added some additional requests.

    1. A copy of policies and procedures covering employee responsibilities entering into confidentiality agreements.
    2. A copy of policies and procedures covering employee responsibilities regarding the preservation of written agreements.
    3. A copy of policies and procedures regarding employees entering into verbal agreements.
    4. A copy of instructions to staff regarding compliance with FOI requests.

  24. jeez
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:34 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Is this limited to citizens of British Commonwealth countries?

    • mpaul
      Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: jeez (#28),

      Is this limited to citizens of British Commonwealth countries?

      No, the UK FOI Act does not require that requests come from UK citizens.

  25. Raven
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 1:53 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Has anyone tried asked for a copy of all confidentiality agreements that cover the data?

    Steve: please stick to a few countries at a time. Please consider the possibility that I’ve thought of obvious things.

  26. Patrick M.
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 2:05 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I too would write a letter to someone except for the fact that I am a mere muggle, (non-academic), and would be far too tempted to use the data for commercial purposes, like selling it to some senator in a highway rest stop or selling it to Amy Winehouse in some dark alley.

    Steve: non-academics please ask as well. The more the merrier.

  27. Willis Eschenbach
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM | Permalink | Reply

    South Africa, the USA, Mongolia, Latvia, and Nigeria …

    w.

  28. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 2:28 PM | Permalink | Reply

    WMO Resolution 40 is interesting (h/t commenter at Anthony’s)
    http://www.map.meteoswiss.ch/map-doc/WMO/WMOresol40.htm .

  29. RomanM
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 2:45 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Ok, China, Japan, India, Pakistan and Russia.

  30. Varco
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:11 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’m in for Canada, Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Spain.

    Keep up the good work Steve…

  31. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:13 PM | Permalink | Reply

    People who haven’t sent an FOI request, please stop cluttering this thread with advice on what we should or shouldn’t do or how we might do it better. If you think that you’ve got a better form of request, feel free to send it in and to share your wisdom afterwards. But otherwise please don’t backseat drive.

  32. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Folks, some of the countries are being duplicated. TRy to pick new countries.

  33. RomanM
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Countries to choose from can be found in the file here.

  34. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM | Permalink | Reply

    [1] ACORES AFGHANISTAN ALBANIA ALGERIA ANDAMAN AND LA ANGOLA ANTARCTICA ANTILLES ARGENTINA ARMENIA ASCENSION IS AUSTRALIA AUSTRALIAN ISL AUSTRIA AZERBAIJAN BAHAMAS BAHRAIN BANGLADESH
    [19] BARBADOS BELARUS BELGIUM BELIZE BENIN BERMUDA BOLIV A BOLIVIA BRAZIL
    [28] BULGARIA BURKINA FASO C. AFR. REP. CAMER ON CAMEROON CANADA CANARY IS. CANARY ISLANDS CAPE VERDE
    [37] CAPE VERDE I CAROLINE ISLAN CENTRAL AFRICA CHAD CHAGOS ARCHIPE CHILE CHINA COLOMBIA COMOROS
    [46] CONGO COOK ISLANDS COSTA RICA COTE D’IVOIRE CROATIA CUBA CYPRUS CZECH REPUBLIC D.R. OF CONGO
    [55] DENMARK DJIBOUTI DOMINICA DOMINICAN REPU E.GERMANY EANDAMAN AND L ECUADOR EGYPT EL SALVADOR
    [64] ERITREA ESTONIA ETHIOPIA FAEROE IS. FIJI FINLAND FRANCE FRENCH GUIANA FRENCH POLYNES
    [73] FRENCH SOUTHER GABON GAMBIA GEORGIA GERMANY GHANA GIBRALTAR GREECE GREENLAND
    [82] GUADELOUPE GUATEMALA GUINEA GUINEA-BISSAU GUYANA HAITI HAWAII HONDURAS HONG KONG
    [91] HUNGARY ICELAND INDIA INDONESIA IRAN IRAQ IRELAND ISLA DE PASCUA ISRAEL
    [100] ITALY JAMAICA JAPAN JAPANESE PACIF JORDAN KAMPUCHEA KAZAKHSTAN KENYA KIRIBATI
    [109] KOREA KUWAIT KYRGYZ REPUBLI LAO P.D.R. LAOS LATVIA LEBANON LIBERIA LIBYA
    [118] LITHUANIA LUXEMBOURG MACAU MADAGASCAR MADEIRA MALAWI MALAYSIA MALI MALTA
    [127] MARIANA IS. MARIANA ISLAND MARSHALL IS. MARTINIQUE MAURITANIA MAURITIUS MEXICO MONGOLIA MOROCCO
    [136] MOZAMBIQUE MYANMAR NAMIBIA NEPAL NETH. ANTILLE NETHERLANDS NEW CALEDONIA NEW ZEALAND NICARAGUA
    [145] NIGER NIGERIA NIUE ISLAND NORWAY OCEANIA OMAN PACIFIC OC. PAKISTAN PANAMA
    [154] PAPUA NEW GUIN PARAGUAY PERU PHILIPPINES POLAND PORTUGAL PUERTO RICO QATAR REPUBLIC OF UZ
    [163] REUNION ROMANIA RUN-BY-USA RUSSIA RUSSIA (ASIA) RUSSIA (EUROP RUSSIA EUROPE RUSSIAN FEDERA S.AFRICA
    [172] SAMOA SAO-TOME-AND SAUDI ARABIA SENEGAL SEYCHELLES SIERRA LEONE SINGAPORE SLOVAKIA SLOVENIA
    [181] SOCIETY IS. SOLOMON ISLAND SOMALIA SOUTH-AFRICA SOUTH AFRICA SOUTH AFRICAN SPAIN SRI LANKA ST. THOMAS
    [190] SUDAN SURINAM SURINAME SWEDEN SWITZERLAND SYRIA TAIWAN TAJIKISTAN TANZANIA
    [199] THAILAND TOGO TOKELAU ISLAND TONGA TRINIDAD AND T TUNISIA TURKEY TURKMENISTAN TUVALU
    [208] UGANDA UK UK SOUTH ATLAN UKRAINE URUGUAY US CENTRAL PAC USA USSR VANUATU
    [217] VENEZUALA VENEZUELA VIETNAM W.GERMANY WALLIS ISLAND WESTERN SAHARA YEMEN YUGOSLAVIA ZAIRE
    [226] ZAMBIA ZIMBABWE

  35. John F. Pittman
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:28 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Mr. Palmer,
    I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements) restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics contrary to the guidelines specifically listed in W.M.O. RESOLUTION 40 (Cg-XII).
    WMO policy and practice for the exchange of meteorological and related data and products including guidelines on relationships in commercial meteorological activities which states : ” Reminds Members of their obligations under Article 2 of the WMO Convention to facilitate worldwide cooperation in the establishment of observing networks and to promote the exchange of meteorological and related information; and of the need to ensure stable ongoing commitment of resources to meet this obligation in the common interest of all nations.
    1. the date of any establishment of confidentiality agreements that negate the W.M.O. RESOLUTION 40 (Cg-XII) in particular “Reminds” reproduced above, specifically the exchange of meteorological and related information;
    2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that prevents or negates W.M.O. RESOLUTION 40 (Cg-XII) specifically the exchange of meteorological and related information;
    4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement.

    Additionally, if your position is that release of information cannot be made then, I further request a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements) restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to academics contrary to the guidelines specifically listed in EuroGOOS EG99.37 Version 3, Date: 16.2.00 Policy and practice for EuroGOOS for the exchange of oceanographic and related data and products including guidelines on relationships in commercial oceanographic activities which states “Members should provide to the research and education communities, for their non-commercial activities, free and unrestricted access to all data and products exchanged under the auspices of WMO with the understanding that their commercial activities are subject to the same conditions identified in Adopts (2) above”:

    1. the date of any establishment of confidentiality agreements that negate the EuroGOOS EG99.37 Version 3, Date: 16.2.00, specifically “unrestricted access”;
    2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that prevents or negates EuroGOOS EG99.37 Version 3, Date: 16.2.00, specifically “unrestricted access”;
    4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement that prevents or negates EuroGOOS EG99.37 Version 3, Date: 16.2.00, specifically “unrestricted access”.

    I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.
    Thank you for your attention.
    Yours truly,
    John F. Pittman

  36. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:34 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Country Request
    ACORES
    AFGHANISTAN Yes
    ALBANIA
    ALGERIA Yes
    ANDAMAN AND LA
    ANGOLA Yes
    ANTARCTICA
    ANTIGUA Yes
    ANTILLES
    ARGENTINA
    ARMENIA Yes
    ARUBA Yes
    ASCENSION IS Yes
    AUSTRALIA Yes
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    AUSTRIA Yes
    AZERBAIJAN Yes
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELARUS Yes
    BELGIUM Yes
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BOTSWANA Yes
    BRAZIL Yes
    BULGARIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANADA Yes
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    CHILE
    CHINA Yes
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DENMARK Yes
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ESTONIA Yes
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FINLAND
    FRANCE Yes
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GEORGIA Yes
    GERMANY Yes
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ICELAND
    INDIA Yes
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    IRELAND
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    ISRAEL
    ITALY Yes
    JAMAICA
    JAPAN Yes
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LATVIA Yes
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MONGOLIA Yes
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NAURU Yes
    NEPAL Yes
    NETH. ANTILLE
    NETHERLANDS Yes
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIGERIA Yes
    NIUE ISLAND
    NORWAY Yes
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PAKISTAN Yes
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PHILIPPINES
    POLAND
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    RUSSIA Yes
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SOUTH AFRICA Yes
    SPAIN Yes
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SWEDEN
    SWITZERLAND
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    UK Yes
    UKRAINE Yes
    URUGUAY
    USA Yes
    USSR
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAIRE Yes
    ZAMBIA
    ZIMBABWE Yes

  37. Ian George
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:35 PM | Permalink | Reply

    How many stations are like this?

    I noticed that on the list of stations Hadcrut use is Lismore (Centre St). According to the BOM (Aust) this station was closed on 31st Dec, 2003.

    945860 -288 -1533 11 LISMORE (CENTRE STRE AUSTRALIA (from Hadcrut records)

    From BOM record
    Commenced: 1884 Status: Closed 31 Dec 2003
    Latest available data: 31 Dec 2003

    • Geoff Sherrington
      Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 1:57 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Ian George (#42),

      I confirm my data sources say likewise, Lismore (Centre St) ended in Dec 2003. The nearby airport AWS Aust #58214 was opened in 2002 and appears to be the prime location for the town of Lismore. The older Lismore (Centre St) site #058037 opened in 1884 but my modern BOM online records show it only from 1907.

      This epitomises the CRU problem. If CRU start Lismore in 1884, there is a possibility that they are using data of a standard that the BOM rejected. If CRU are using data after 2003, it might be assigned to the wrong location.

      Who is to know?

  38. JohnAnnArbor
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:47 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’m in for Zimbabwe, Zaire, Angola, South Africa and Botswana.

    That response got me thinking: They may take “Zimbabwe” and go back to 1980 and claim there’s no data before that. If you then ask for “Republic of Rhodesia” you may then get only data from 1965 to 1980. Before that, “Southern Rhodesia.” And on and on. Many nations have had odd permutations of official names, both before and after independence from various colonial powers. I wonder if that may cause issues.

  39. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ll take Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, New Zealand, and Thailand

  40. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:00 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Easier way to do this steve. Below Find a list of countries NOT REQUESTED YET.

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested

    Country Request
    ACORES

    ALBANIA

    ANDAMAN AND LA

    ANTARCTICA

    ANTILLES
    ARGENTINA

    AUSTRALIAN ISL

    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS

    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA

    BULGARIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON

    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    CHILE

    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO

    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA

    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FINLAND

    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA

    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ICELAND

    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    IRELAND
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    ISRAEL

    JAMAICA

    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS

    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO

    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA

    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER

    NIUE ISLAND

    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.

    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PHILIPPINES
    POLAND
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA

    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA

    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SWEDEN
    SWITZERLAND
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA

    URUGUAY

    USSR
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA

    ZAMBIA

  41. PP
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I chose: Chile, Finland, Poland, Sweden, and Switzerland.

  42. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Ok PP thanks.

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested

    Countries LEFT to Request
    ACORES
    ALBANIA
    ANDAMAN AND LA
    ANTARCTICA
    ANTILLES
    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BULGARIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE

    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI

    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ICELAND
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    IRELAND
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    ISRAEL
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PHILIPPINES

    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME

    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    USSR
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  43. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:13 PM | Permalink | Reply

    To Mr S McIntyre
    From Sir Humphrey Appleby

    Dear Mr McIntyre,

    Your request is warmly welcomed and will receive the fullest possible consideration, in the fullness of time, at the appropriate juncture, subject to the deliberation of an interdeparmental committee to determine whether you are authorised to make this request, a task of great analytical delicacy. However, the Prime Minister feels that releasing facts to you on this matter would be ‘courageous’. It might damage national security. It would merely confuse the lower orders who did not go to Oxford. It cannot at present be elevated on the order of business above more pressing matters like being photographed with Madame Sarkozy. Moreover, the relevant documents were among those many files (especially embarrassing ones) lost in the great flood of 1967. And the public servant responsible for the documents was also lost in the great flood of 1967. Our scientific advisers blame the great flood of 1967 on global warming with up to 90% confidence.

  44. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:23 PM | Permalink | Reply

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request
    ACORES
    ALBANIA
    ANDAMAN AND LA
    ANTARCTICA
    ANTILLES
    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BULGARIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    ISRAEL
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PHILIPPINES
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    USSR
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  45. Rob Erhardt
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM | Permalink | Reply

    This is absurd.

    The Jones et. al.(1986) CRUTEMP station data homogenization
    paper was largely funded by the U.S. DOE.

    As such, the “data” is public domain.

    All Station Data used to be posted on the Internet(1851-1994).

    It mysteriously vanished some years back.

    Oak Ridge National Laboratory(ORNL/CDIAC-37 NDP-020/R1):

    “An Updated Global Grid Point Surface Air Temperature Anomaly Data
    Set: 1851-1990″

    The Homogeniety of U.S. station adjustments that appeared in the
    1986 Journal of Climate paper was strongly(and rightly) critized
    by Wood(Climatic Change/Vol. 12 No. 3-June 1988).

    Professor Jones appears afraid of all but a handful of AGW elite.

    The scientific community at large has no way of ascertaining
    the value of any updated/changed/deleted data!

    And we are expected to develop life changing Global Policy?

  46. Dan White
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I took the first five from the list of remaining stations.

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request
    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BULGARIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    ISRAEL
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PHILIPPINES
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    USSR
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  47. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:42 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve used ISRAEL, ANTARCTICA, BULGARIA, PHILIPPINES, USSR
    and amended the wording to include ‘geographical area’ as well as ‘country’

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested

    Countries LEFT to Request
    ACORES
    ALBANIA
    ANDAMAN AND LA

    ANTILLES
    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA

    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE

    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI

    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ICELAND
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    IRELAND
    ISLA DE PASCUA

    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU

    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME

    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY

    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  48. Dan White
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM | Permalink | Reply

    To be clear, I took ACORES, ALBANIA, ANDAMAN AND LA, ANTARCTICA, ANTILLES and removed them from my list above.

  49. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Updated after dan white.

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ICELAND
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    IRELAND
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  50. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 5:42 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Steven – why did you add my 5 back to the list?

  51. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Also Boliv_a and Venuzuala are not countries – appear to be typo-dupes.

  52. Harry Eagar
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 5:51 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Puerto Rico?

    NOAA doesn’t cover Puerto Rico? Who does?

  53. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Others (should have checked closer the first time)

    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I

    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    RUN-BY-USA

    SURINAM
    SURINAME

    Bolded the bad entries. There may be more, but the all caps is a pain to read closely.

    Cheers.

  54. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 6:16 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I requested Cook Islands, Fiji, Samoa (Western and American), Niue Island and Tonga and removed mine and Terry’s (Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, New Zealand, and Thailand) selections from the list.

    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    INDONESIA
    IRAN
    IRAQ
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUALA
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  55. Charlie
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve always wanted some far away islands.

    I claim

    Kingman Reef
    Kiribati
    Johnson Atoll
    Southern line Islands
    Palau – Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands.

    As well as the confidentiality agreement requests recommended in Steve McIntyre’s comment #10, I am also requesting and station data, metadata, and other historical records relating to stations in those locations.

  56. Bob Koss
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 6:23 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Perhaps EANDAMAN AND L is a corruption of Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Or Andaman and Little Nicobar Island.

    Another duplicate?
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON

  57. mpaul
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 6:28 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Here are the entities listed on the surface station country list that are not part of WMO. Most of these are not countries or are defunct countries.

    ACORES
    ANDAMAN AND LA
    ANTARCTICA
    ANTILLES
    ARUBA
    ASCENSION IS
    BERMUDA
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    FAEROE IS.
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GIBRALTAR
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    HAWAII
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    KAMPUCHEA
    LAOS
    MADEIRA
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    NAURU Yes
    OCEANIA
    PACIFIC OC.
    PUERTO RICO
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    SOCIETY IS.
    ST. THOMAS
    TAIWAN
    TANZANIA
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TUVALU
    USSR
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAIRE Yes

  58. Flashman
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 7:05 PM | Permalink | Reply

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TOKELAU ISLAND
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  59. tallbloke
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 7:07 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve taken the following five countries

    GIBRALTAR
    EGYPT
    GREECE
    CUBA
    GREENLAND

    Email is sent.

    By the way, I’ve worked out a method of reconstructing global SST from sunspot numbers and LOD variation which shows::
    a) The wartime issues with engine cooling inlet sensors still isn’t sorted.
    b) HADsst 2GL is pretty good apart from that.

    http://s630.photobucket.com/albums/uu21/stroller-2009/?action=view&current=temp-hist-80.gif

  60. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Done. Hmm no durkadurkastan.

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    ARGENTINA
    AUSTRALIAN ISL
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIV A
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    C. AFR. REP.
    CAMER ON
    CAMEROON
    CANARY IS.
    CANARY ISLANDS
    CAPE VERDE
    CAPE VERDE I
    CAROLINE ISLAN
    CENTRAL AFRICA
    CHAD
    CHAGOS ARCHIPE
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS
    CONGO
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CUBA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    E.GERMANY
    EANDAMAN AND L
    ECUADOR
    EGYPT
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FAEROE IS.
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNES
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GIBRALTAR
    GREECE
    GREENLAND
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HAWAII
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    ISLA DE PASCUA
    JAMAICA
    JAPANESE PACIF
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAO P.D.R.
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MACAU
    MADAGASCAR
    MADEIRA
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARIANA IS.
    MARIANA ISLAND
    MARSHALL IS.
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OCEANIA
    OMAN
    PACIFIC OC.
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUIN
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZ
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    RUN-BY-USA
    S.AFRICA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOCIETY IS.
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAM
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND T
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    W.GERMANY
    WALLIS ISLAND
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  61. EJ
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 8:44 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Wow, this is amazing to watch. Will there be a dedicated, organized site for this endeavor?

    All my admiration.

    EJ

  62. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 8:52 PM | Permalink | Reply

    A tidied remainder list (the rolling deletions is a good idea):

    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    ECUADOR
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    THAILAND
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

    CAROLINE ISLANDS
    SOLOMON ISLANDS
    WALLIS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    NIUE ISLAND

  63. Joe Miner
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:00 PM | Permalink | Reply

    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    DOMINICAN REPU
    ECUADOR
    EL SALVADOR
    ERITREA
    ETHIOPIA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NEW ZEALAND
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    Monday morning will be interesting for Mr. Palmer.

    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

  64. OzzieAardvark
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Steve, I know not what you have wrought, but I love it! There is nothing sweeter than impaling a bureaucrat on their own words. I’ve watched you politely and patiently request that government employees do their job for a very long time and I fully support your decision, conscious or not, to take the (cyberspace) gloves off in this endeavor.

    I have a day job that, should I participate in this effort would get me skewered, but I’m hugely impressed by the process nonetheless. The rest of us should aspire to approach life with the same curiosity, logic, courage and integrity that you display regularly on your blog.

    Whew… got carried away there a bit I guess :-)

    In any case, please, please keep up the good work.

    OA

  65. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:26 PM | Permalink | Reply

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA
    VIETNAM
    WESTERN SAHARA
    YEMEN
    YUGOSLAVIA
    ZAMBIA

    CAROLINE ISLANDS
    SOLOMON ISLANDS
    WALLIS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    NIUE ISLAND

  66. Terry
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Whoever takes the next 5 and updates, please also remove New Zealand and Thailand.

    Steve: I edited the last list.

  67. John N
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM | Permalink | Reply

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA

    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA

    CAROLINE ISLANDS
    SOLOMON ISLANDS
    WALLIS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    NIUE ISLAND

  68. John N
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:00 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Steve, you have a typo involing in your original proposed message, hopefully folks aren’t replicating it…

    Corrected text:

    Dear Mr Palmer,

    I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involving the following countries: [insert 5 or so countries that are different from ones already requested]

    1. the date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
    2. the parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. a copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”.
    4. a copy of the entire confidentiality agreement,

    I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.

    Thank you for your attention.

    Yours truly,

    yourname

  69. Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM | Permalink | Reply

    FYI, I took DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, ECUADOR, EL SALVADOR, ERITREA, and ETHIOPIA. Joe Miner and I cross in the last clearance by the moderator but it doesn’t look like Joe Miner took any of these five. Nevertheless my and Joe’s lists do not account for each others’ actions, so the remainder list needs to be updated.

  70. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 24, 2009 at 11:58 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Re 55 Sorry Steve has rectified things.

    Come on everybody we are over halfway done.

  71. Alan Wilkinson
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 12:21 AM | Permalink | Reply

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request
    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA

    Having chosen and deleted: CAROLINE ISLANDS, SOLOMON ISLANDS, WALLIS ISLANDS, COOK ISLANDS, NIUE ISLAND

  72. Gardy LaRoche
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 12:43 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Submitted request for :

    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA

  73. rafa
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 1:24 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Just for the record, I don’t think any “confidentiality agreement” with Spain exists. Let me tell you why. The Met Agency in Spain “sells” the data. The web page says:

    – Services subject to fees: “The issuance of certificates of weather information available in the archives”

    I can’t understand then any mention to a “confidentiality agreement” in the case of Spain. BTW, unfortunately we do not have anything similar to FOIA in Spain.

    best

  74. rafa
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 1:29 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Forgot to mention in the last post, it “sells” the data to the general public and if it is to be used for commercial purposes. Of course under WMO recommendation is for free for researchers and academic institutions.

    best

  75. Sylvester
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 1:41 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve selected:

    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested
    Countries LEFT to Request

    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA

    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN
    TUVALU
    UGANDA
    URUGUAY
    VANUATU
    VENEZUELA

    CAROLINE ISLANDS
    SOLOMON ISLANDS
    WALLIS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    NIUE ISLAND

  76. Geoff Sherrington
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 2:12 AM | Permalink | Reply

    In addition to this splendid effort, might I suggest as I did on a previous blog, that after you send your private list you engage your Country’s Ministers (Foreign Affairs, Environment, Science, Technology, Education — whatever) to also submit a request on behalf of your country. Some Ministers will not touch it, but it takes only one to succeed.

  77. Chris Wright
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 3:51 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I see Tuvalu is still on the list. Better snap it up quick before it vanishes beneath the waves….

  78. Erik in Cairo
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 4:18 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I selected TUVALU, UGANDA, URUGUAY, VENEZUELA, VANUATU

    1. Select 5.
    2. Send your mail.
    3. Post a NEW LIST of countries not requested removing the 5 you requested

    Countries LEFT to Request
    ARGENTINA
    BAHAMAS
    BAHRAIN
    BANGLADESH
    BARBADOS
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    NIUE ISLAND
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOLOMON ISLAND
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

    CAROLINE ISLANDS
    SOLOMON ISLANDS
    WALLIS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    NIUE ISLAND

  79. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 6:38 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Tidied remainder list:

    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  80. Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 6:52 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I think sending a lot of requests to CRU/Met Office from individuals scattered around the world will achieve little. I suggest that Steve approach the following:
    1. Lord Lawson. A former British Chancellor of the Exchequer and active member of the House of Lords who has written a book on economics of climate change.
    2. Peter Lilley. A former Conservative Cabinet Minister who was the only MP to warn in a parliamentary debate of the unwarranted costs of mitigating climat change. He is still a Member of Parliament.
    3. Christopher Booker. A journalist on the Telegraph newspaper who is a well known sceptic.
    4. Professor David Bellamy. A rspected environmentalist and climate chnage sceptic.
    They should be asked to submit FoI requests and would have the weight to push the CRU/Met Office.

  81. Ryan O
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 6:59 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Mr Palmer,

    I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involving the following countries: Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, the Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria.

    1. The date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;

    2. The parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;

    3. A copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”; and,

    4. A copy of the entire confidentiality agreement.

    I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.

    Thank you for your attention.

    .
    Updated remainder list:
    .
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  82. Erik in Cairo
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 7:23 AM | Permalink | Reply

    While my request was awaiting approval, another person made the same request. Consequently, I am sending one further FOI request: CZECH REPUBLIC, D.R. OF CONGO, DJIBOUTI, DOMINICA, and FIJI

    Tidied remainder list:
    BELIZE
    BENIN
    BERMUDA
    BOLIVIA
    BURKINA FASO
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  83. John Norris
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 7:42 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I sent one for BELIZE, BENIN, BERMUDA, BOLIVIA, BURKINA FASO
    remaining:
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    CZECH REPUBLIC
    D.R. OF CONGO
    DJIBOUTI
    DOMINICA
    FIJI
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    JORDAN
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LEBANON
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SAUDI ARABIA
    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SUDAN
    SURINAME
    SYRIA
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  84. Henry A
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 8:10 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I requested these countries and deleted them from the list below.

    SENEGAL
    SEYCHELLES
    SIERRA LEONE
    SINGAPORE
    SLOVAKIA

    Henry

    [Steve: I also substracted Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, the Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Syria from this and BELIZE, BENIN, BERMUDA, BOLIVIA, BURKINA FASO and CZECH REPUBLIC, D.R. OF CONGO, DJIBOUTI, DOMINICA, and FIJI]

    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    LAOS
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  85. manacker
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 9:36 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Delete:
    LAOS
    LIBERIA
    LIBYA
    LITHUANIA
    LUXEMBOURG
    from the list

    Attn: Mr. David Palmer

    Dear Mr. Palmer,
    I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involving the following countries: Laos, Liberia, Libya, Lithuania and Luxembourg.
    1. The date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
    2. The parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
    3. A copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”; and,
    4. A copy of the entire confidentiality agreement.
    I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.
    Thank you very kindly in advance for your attention,

    Max Anacker
    Maienfeld, Switzerland

  86. manacker
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 9:38 AM | Permalink | Reply

    These countries are left:
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHER
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLI
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  87. manacker
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 9:47 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Sent request for remaining “L” countries (see previous post). List is now:

    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLIC
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

    Max

  88. Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 10:19 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I took the first 5 Cs. The list is now:

    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KAZAKHSTAN
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    KYRGYZ REPUBLIC
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REPUBLIC OF UZBEKISTAN
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TAJIKISTAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY
    TURKMENISTAN

  89. Ivan
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 10:34 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I just sent request for Serbia, Montenegro, Albania, Croatia and Slovakia.

  90. Carl Gullans
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 10:37 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I sent one with Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, The Kyrgyz Republic, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan, leaving:

    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS
    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME
    TAIWAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY

    FYI, “SAO-TOME-AND” should be “Sao Tome and Principe”

  91. Ivan
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Oops, I just noticed above those countries already have been requested.

  92. AnonyMoose
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Antarctica? How could he have a confidentiality agreement with the continent of Antarctica? :-)

  93. Rich
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 11:39 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Isn’t there a risk that the appearance of a concerted campaign can be used as evidence that the requests are “vexatious” which is one of the UK FOI’s exceptions? Especially as the wording is all but identical? Still, that boat has sailed now I suppose.

    • James Lane
      Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 9:10 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Rich (#102),

      Isn’t there a risk that the appearance of a concerted campaign can be used as evidence that the requests are “vexatious” which is one of the UK FOI’s exceptions? Especially as the wording is all but identical?

      I think it’s possible they may try this line of defence. However, the inquiries are not really vexatious. We’re just trying to find out which countries these supposed confidentiality agreements apply to. Then we could FOI the rest.

      OTOH, if Phil Jones really doesn’t have any records of such agreements… One thing is for sure. David Palmer is not going to appreciate this pile of FOI requests and he will be motivated to resolve the impasse in a way that doesn’t reflect poorly on himself and his office. I expect he’ll kick it upstairs.

      Further, if the press get interested, I doubt that the institutions are going to put up with Jones’ precious behaviour much longer.

      • Brian Marks
        Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 6:23 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Re: James Lane (#115),

        I have some experience of doing FOI requests, so let me offer some advice:

        Under FOI, the request cannot be considered vexatious because it is clearly a genuine request. However, where a series of requesters are clearly acting in concert, the requests can be aggregated – treated as a single request. I’m pretty sure that will be the response in this case.

        The Act only requires organisations to spend up to 18 hours on finding the information – looks to me like this collection will take much longer. So expect the answer to be no. On the other hand, they are supposed to offer to advise and assist – in other words, you can ask them how to frame the request so it can be done in less than 18 hours. Why not try a sample of countries? You don’t need all of them.

        If that fails, definitely appeal to the Information Commissioner. He is reasonably effective at upholding the law. Just don’t hold your breath – he can take up to a couple of years to report back!

        With regard to the information you are looking for under the Environmental Information Regulations, there may not be any formal confidentiality agreement, and there does not have to be. The legal basis is the common law idea that someone can have an expectation of confidence. You don’t have to have a signed agreement with your doctor not to tell anyone about how you got that embarrassing rash – you have every expectation that he will keep it confidential, and you would be entitled to sue for damages if he revealed it. If the information you are requesting has been provided under a reasonable (and legally actionable) expectation of confidence, then no chance – it can be legally withheld. Mind you, it does depend how old it is – confidentiality is usually considered to diminish with time. And if it has been distributed to a substantial number of people – willy nilly to academics, say – that would weaken it as well. There has to be evidence of a formal relationship, not just an attempt to keep the hoi polloi from getting their sweaty fingers on it.

        Once again, the Information Commissioner is your friend. Once he gets around to you, that is.

  94. TAG
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 11:53 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Having supported litigation and worked with lawyers, I would expect that they would be very interested in this part of the answer:

    Regulation 12(5)(f) applies because the information requested was received by the University on terms that prevent further transmission to non-academics

    They would have a motion asking the judge to construe the word non-academic. Evidently some data has been released to the Met Office. The Met Office is not an academic institution. It does not teach and it does not grant degrees. Evidently academic extends beyond degree granting schools. A strong argument could be made that it included non-commercial research as evidenced by the supply of data to the Met Office.

    Hs this data been supplied to similar institutions – NOAA, national labs in the US, CSIRO, Canadian NRC etc.?

  95. Michael Jennings
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 11:56 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Sent the FOI request for the top five of:
    CAMEROON
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC
    CHAD
    COLOMBIA
    COMOROS ISLANDS

  96. Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 12:33 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Good job for creating the list… I’d really like to see the updated lists. Keep up the work!

  97. Dan White
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 1:46 PM | Permalink | Reply

    If the list slows down maybe a heads-up to the Anthony Watt’s site is in order. It would be nice to have the entire list finished by Monday morning UK time.

  98. Joe Shill
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 3:21 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve requested:

    SLOVENIA
    SOMALIA
    SRI LANKA
    ST. THOMAS
    SURINAME

  99. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Tidy List of countries remaining after Joe Shill and Micheal Jennings

    1. Pick 5.
    2. Delete from List
    3. Post list
    4. Send FOI

    COOK ISLANDS
    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAMOA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    TAIWAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TONGA
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY

  100. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 3:59 PM | Permalink | Reply

    RE 106. I left notes on AW site yesterday and lucia site as well.

  101. AnonyMoose
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 4:12 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Dear Mr. MCINTYRE,

    My husband was a climatological researcher in Kenya, who was unexpectedly killed by a falling thermometer. When discarding his records, we discovered a metal box which had the records of his grant money and bribes. He had secreted these monies in Nigeria. But climate changed forced me and my uncle’s family to flee Africa before we could get the money. We need your help in getting the $3,2 BILLION out of that bank before climate change destroys it also. We urgently need to buy some carbon credits so climate change will be slowed enough to get the money out of the bank safely. We hope that you can help, and graciously request that you keep one-quarter of the funds as youre reward for your generous assistance.

    Graciously,
    Mrs. Fah R. enHeit

  102. Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 4:14 PM | Permalink | Reply

    You can remove Cook Islands, Samoa and Tonga from the list. I requested them yesterday (see #59).

  103. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 4:40 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Tidy List of countries remaining after #110 observation

    1. Pick 5.
    2. Delete from List
    3. Post list
    4. Send FOI

    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PORTUGAL
    PUERTO RICO
    QATAR
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    TAIWAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY

  104. Steve McIntyre
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 8:04 PM | Permalink | Reply

    The Met Office is not an academic institution.

    That’s a good point.

  105. James Lane
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 8:54 PM | Permalink | Reply

    OK, I’ve done

    PANAMA
    PAPUA NEW GUINEA
    PARAGUAY
    PERU
    PUERTO RICO
    .

    That leaves:

    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PORTUGAL
    QATAR
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    TAIWAN
    TANZANIA
    TOGO
    TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO
    TUNISIA
    TURKEY

    • Bob Koss
      Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: James Lane (#114), LOL.
      I just received acknowledgement of your FOI request sent to my email address. Also received a separate one for my request. Evidently they must be a little frazzled around there.

      They were kind enough to provide me with your snail-mail address, but not your email. If you want the letter I can send it to you if you provide your email in some recognizable but obscured form.

      You letter says the same as Re: Joeshill (#145), Except your reference number is FOI_09-108 while mine is FOI_09-109.

      You might want to notify them about the screw-up so their next communication with you doesn’t get mis-directed again.

      • Bob Koss
        Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 2:00 PM | Permalink | Reply

        Re: Bob Koss (#147), Actually now that I think about it. Just have them send you the notification again, that way they correct their own screw-up and you don’t have to put your email out in the wild.

        • James Lane
          Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM | Permalink

          Re: Bob Koss (#148),

          Bob, that’s pretty funny. I’ll contact them and ask them to send it again, hopefully to me this time.

  106. Genghis
    Posted Jul 25, 2009 at 10:30 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I just sent an email to Mr. Palmer for TANZANIA, TOGO, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA and TURKEY.

    That leaves:

    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PORTUGAL
    QATAR
    REUNION
    ROMANIA
    SAO-TOME-AND
    TAIWAN

  107. wileyjack
    Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 7:59 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I just sent an email to Mr. Palmer for QATAR, REUNION, ROMANIA, SAO-TOME-AND, and TAIWAN.

    That leaves:

    COSTA RICA
    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUATEMALA
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONDURAS
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR
    NAMIBIA
    NEW CALEDONIA
    NICARAGUA
    NIGER
    OMAN
    PORTUGAL

  108. Sarah F
    Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I have done Namibia to Portugal – with a copy to the Information Commissioner.

    • steven mosher
      Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 3:53 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Sarah F (#119),

      Thanks. Sarah.

      That leaves:

      COSTA RICA
      COTE D’IVOIRE
      CROATIA
      CYPRUS
      FRENCH GUIANA
      FRENCH POLYNESia
      FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
      GABON
      GAMBIA
      GHANA
      GUADELOUPE
      GUATEMALA
      GUINEA
      GUINEA-BISSAU
      GUYANA
      HAITI
      HONDURAS
      HONG KONG
      HUNGARY
      JAMAICA
      KAMPUCHEA
      KENYA
      KIRIBATI
      KOREA
      KUWAIT
      MADAGASCAR
      MALAWI
      MALAYSIA
      MALI
      MALTA
      MARTINIQUE
      MAURITANIA
      MAURITIUS
      MEXICO
      MOROCCO
      MOZAMBIQUE
      MYANMAR

  109. Sarah F
    Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 1:48 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Forget the Info Com as yet – I’m saving that one!

  110. Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 4:04 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I requested “El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala and Costa Rica”.

  111. Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 4:08 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I guess one of mine was a waste. But how could I not request my birth country. Anyway, that leaves:

    COTE D’IVOIRE
    CROATIA
    CYPRUS
    FRENCH GUIANA
    FRENCH POLYNESia
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  112. Posted Jul 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I took the five first ones. Thus, the remaining are:

    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  113. Bob Koss
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I took HONG KONG, HUNGARY, JAMAICA, KAMPUCHEA, KENYA.

    Remaining…
    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  114. Mark Smith
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 2:59 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve just sent the request for these:

    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE

    Leaving:

    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    KAMPUCHEA
    KENYA
    KIRIBATI
    KOREA
    KUWAIT
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  115. Stan jones
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 3:00 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve asked for Kampuchea, Kenya, Kiribati, Korea, Kuwait. The remaining ones are:

    FRENCH SOUTHERN AND ANTARCTIC LANDS
    GABON
    GAMBIA
    GHANA
    GUADELOUPE
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  116. Stan jones
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 3:03 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Didn’t see Mark Smith’s post in time; so list is now:

    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  117. Boudu
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 3:10 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I take
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG

    leaving

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  118. Boudu
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 3:21 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve Taken
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG

    leaving:

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA
    MAURITIUS
    MEXICO
    MOROCCO
    MOZAMBIQUE
    MYANMAR

  119. jeez
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM | Permalink | Reply

    I just sent mine for Mauritius, Mexico, Morocco, Mozambique, and Myanmar.

    The remaining list.

    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA

  120. jeez
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 4:08 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Maybe I should have asked for Burma instead to see what the response would have been.

  121. R.Barker
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:06 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Ok. 1st time post. Just requested Guinea; Guinea-Bissau; Guyana; Haiti; Hong Kong.

    Remaing countries:

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA

    Keep it up everybody!

  122. Boudu
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:06 AM | Permalink | Reply

    The remaining list.

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA
    MARTINIQUE
    MAURITANIA

  123. GrantB
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:18 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Strike out MALAYSIA, MALI, MALTA, MARTINIQUE and MAURITANIA. I also left details of my Australian defence science security clearances if the request looks like breaching any MOD security regulations. We do have a quadripartite defence science agreement between the USA, UK, Canada and Aust and atmospheric transmission used to be one of the focus areas. The agreement is known as The Technical Co-operation Panel or TTCP. Sometimes referred to as The Travelling Cocktail Party. Anyway, enough of science and drinking, that leaves only nine;
    GUINEA
    GUINEA-BISSAU
    GUYANA
    HAITI
    HONG KONG
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI

  124. GrantB
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:22 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Missed R Barker at #134. Remaining are;
    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI

  125. andy
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:25 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Some overlapping, remaining are:

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI
    MALAYSIA
    MALI
    MALTA

    I asked also Finland another time. I’m interested to see weather the historical station data is covered by a deals with HMs of British and Swedish King/Queen (pre 1809), or British King/Queen treaty with Russian Emperior (1809-1917) and how it’s updated with the sovereign Republic of Finland (1917 onwards).

  126. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Tidy List after 135.

    HUNGARY
    JAMAICA
    MADAGASCAR
    MALAWI

    Last 4.

  127. mojo
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM | Permalink | Reply

    TOP SECRET weather data! Hot damn!

    I guess we better get the Cone of Silence repaired, huh Chief?

  128. Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 11:41 AM | Permalink | Reply

    The last four countries are gone. I’ve just sent the request for Hungary, Jamaica, Madagascar and Malawi.

  129. steven mosher
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 11:43 AM | Permalink | Reply

    good job everybody!

  130. Henry A
    Posted Jul 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM | Permalink | Reply

    GONNA PARTY LIKE ITS 1999

  131. Joeshill
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Just received this email:

    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 – INFORMATION REQUEST
    (Our Ref: FOI_09-86)

    I acknowledge your request for information received 25 July 2009. Your request is being considered and you will receive the information requested within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party.

    If appropriate, the information may be provided in paper copy, normal font size. If you require alternative formats, e.g. language, audio, large print, etc. then please let me know.

    For your information, the Act defines a number of exemptions which may prevent release of the information you have requested. There will be an assessment and if any of the exemption categories apply then the information will not be released. You will be informed if this is the case, including your rights of appeal.

    If the information you request contains reference to a third party then they may be consulted prior to a decision being taken on whether or not to release the information to you. You will be informed if this is the case.

    There may a fee payable for this information. This will be considered and you will be informed if a fee is payable. In this event the fee must be paid before the information is processed and released. The 20 working day time limit for responses is suspended until receipt of the payment.

    If you have any queries or concerns then please contact me at:

    University of East Anglia
    Norwich
    NR4 7TJ
    Telephone: 01603 593 523
    E-mail: foi@uea.ac.uk

    Further information is also available from the Information Commissioner at:

    Information Commissioner’s Office
    Wycliffe House
    Water Lane
    Wilmslow
    Cheshire
    SK9 5AF
    Telephone: 01625 545 700
    http://www.ico.gov.uk

    Yours sincerely

    David Palmer
    Information Policy and Compliance Manager
    University of East Anglia

    Just thought I’d see if anyone else has received similar.

  132. Willis Eschenbach
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 12:25 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Poor Mr. Dave Palmer has acknowledged my FOI request, viz:

    I acknowledge your request for information received 24 July 2009. Your request is being considered and you will receive the information requested within the statutory timescale of 20 working days as defined by the Freedom of Information Act 2000, subject to the information not being exempt or containing a reference to a third party.

    The game is afoot …
    .
    w.

  133. Ryan O
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 2:07 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I, too, have received my acknowledgement.

    • Jonathan
      Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 2:43 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Ryan O (#149), nothing here yet. I have emailed asking for an acknowledgment.

  134. tallbloke
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM | Permalink | Reply

    Dave’s typing fingers must be worn to the bone, this just in. It’s short and to the point, he’s obviously working late, poor guy.

    Mr. Tallbloke,

    Attached please find a letter acknowledging your request received 25 July 2009.. It also contains further information regarding the handling of this request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. I will be in contact with you further in due course.

    Cheers, Dave Palmer

  135. jeez
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 3:11 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I got mine yesterday.

  136. Alan Wilkinson
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 3:12 PM | Permalink | Reply

    My acknowledgement arrived: FOI_09-93

  137. Ryan O
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM | Permalink | Reply

    By the way, mine is FOI_09_88. It might prove somewhat interesting, as my request included Syria – which supposedly actually might have some kind of restriction associated with it.

    • RomanM
      Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Ryan O (#154),

      Naw, it’s more mundane than that. FOI_09_70. It is almost certainly,first come, first serve. Either that or More Important People get responded to faster. ;)

  138. Terry
    Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I received FOI_09-81 acknowledgement at about 1:00 CDT today.

  139. Posted Jul 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM | Permalink | Reply

    I received my acknowledgment as well today.

  140. Mark Smith
    Posted Aug 1, 2009 at 1:53 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Mine came, too.

  141. SarahF
    Posted Aug 1, 2009 at 10:58 AM | Permalink | Reply

    E Mail:
    Ms. Ferguson,
    Attached please find a letter acknowledging your request received 26 July 2009.. It also contains further information regarding the handling of this request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. I will be in contact with you further in due course.
    Cheers, Dave Palmer

    Heading to letter
    FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 2000 – INFORMATION REQUEST
    (Our Ref: FOI_09-100)

    I assume that the reference number means that this is the 100th email Palmer has received! This will presumeably totally foul up his plans for a vacation.

  142. SarahF
    Posted Aug 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM | Permalink | Reply

    Nice comment from Christopher Booker re Steve’s David vs Goliath struggle.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5955955/Weather-records-are-a-state-secret.html

  143. Charlie
    Posted Aug 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM | Permalink | Reply

    CRU response fails to comply with rule 12 (11).

    I was perusing the Environmental Information Regulations of 2004 at http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/20043391.htm#12 and noticed that Rule 12 (11) states

    Nothing in these Regulations shall authorise a refusal to make available any environmental information contained in or otherwise held with other information which is withheld by virtue of these Regulations unless it is not reasonably capable of being separated from the other information for the purpose of making available that information.

    The rejection notice to Steve McIntyre did not explicitly state that the CRU was not reasonably capable of separating out the exempted data from the non-exempted data, and therefore CRU should have supplied the non-exempt data to which the various claimed exemptions did NOT apply.

  144. Gladiatrix
    Posted Sep 30, 2009 at 11:55 AM | Permalink | Reply

    If the Met Office is using spurious reasons and/or ignoring the statutory public interest test contained in the FoIA and the EIRs then rather than sending what looks not far short of a chain letter the appeal process to the ICO should be used. This is what it is for. In addition, the Met Office should be reported to the relevant Secretary of State for misconduct with a request that disciplinary action be taken against the civil servants responsible.

  145. Veronica
    Posted Dec 1, 2009 at 3:34 PM | Permalink | Reply

    So find a friendly academic and get him/her to request it?

  146. Per Edman
    Posted Feb 9, 2010 at 3:15 AM | Permalink | Reply

    So there was indeed a campaign of vexatious FOI requests. Thanks for being blatant about it:

    Cherrypicked quote:
    “I assume that the reference number means that this is the 100th email Palmer has received! This will presumeably totally foul up his plans for a vacation.”

    / Per

    • charles the moderator
      Posted Feb 9, 2010 at 5:44 AM | Permalink | Reply

      Re: Per Edman (Feb 9 03:15),

      Per, Per, Per…so the fact that CRU lied about the fact that:

      Regulation 12(5)(f) applies because the information requested was received by the University on terms that prevent further transmission to non-academics

      doesn’t bother you?

      Jones could have taken 30 seconds and sent the data requested to Steve by resending the package already sent to Peter Webster. What you drive by commenters always seem to miss is that the original obfuscation led to an escalation, not the other way around.

      • Per Edman
        Posted Feb 9, 2010 at 8:28 AM | Permalink | Reply

        Another admission of guilt. “They started it” is the same as saying “we did indeed escalate the conflict because we felt we were in the right” and now a man is contemplating suicide and your side has exposed themselves as saboteurs more interested in disruption than science.

        http://rabett.blogspot.com/2010/02/steve-had-little-list.html

        Guessing how much time it could have taken someone else to do something other than their jobs, doesn’t impress me much. Even reading your comment takes more than 30 seconds and as long as each new request regards another five nations, and then another, and then another, you have very consciously “escalated” the perceived conflict into exactly the kind of abusive behavior climate conspiracy theorists were already suspected of.

        Unless you’re all shills.

        / Per

      • Per Edman
        Posted Feb 9, 2010 at 8:53 AM | Permalink | Reply

        But no, it doesn’t bother me significantly that only one out of the following requests were filled:

        FOI_09-44 (Refused), FOI_09-63 (Refused), FOI_09-64 (Refused), FOI_09-65 (Refused), FOI_09-71 (Released), FOI_09-117 (Pending), FOI_09-128 (Pending).

        Which ones of these came from McI?

        The response to 09-71 would also be interesting, but that request seems to understand the concepts of privacy…

        / Per

        • kim
          Posted Mar 15, 2010 at 6:46 PM | Permalink

          Per, this was nailing the lies up on the wall for all to see. Look over there. Can you read?
          ===============

  147. John Norris
    Posted Feb 19, 2010 at 7:40 PM | Permalink | Reply

    re this interview:
    http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/327/5968/934/DC1

    has this Phil Jones quote:
    Q: When did the pressure grow most severe?
    P.J.: In July 2009 we received 60 Freedom of Information requests in a few days–each request was for five countries’ worth of data.

    Well that nicely misdirects what was actually in the FOI requests.

    • curious
      Posted Mar 15, 2010 at 7:39 PM | Permalink | Reply

      Pathetic.

      Cut and paste from comment in thread above:

      “Attn: Mr. David Palmer

      Dear Mr. Palmer,
      I hereby make a EIR/FOI request in respect to any confidentiality agreements restricting transmission of CRUTEM data to non-academics involving the following countries: 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
      1. The date of any applicable confidentiality agreements;
      2. The parties to such confidentiality agreement, including the full name of any organization;
      3. A copy of the section of the confidentiality agreement that “prevents further transmission to non-academics”; and,
      4. A copy of the entire confidentiality agreement.
      I am requesting this information for the purposes of academic research.
      Thank you very kindly in advance for your attention,”

      No mention of data there in what was the generic request. How long does it take to say “there is no agreement in force for any of the countries you list”?

      Unless of course it was one of these:

      http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/availability/agreements.pdf

      in which case a max. of 4 would need modifying. I hope the ICO is paying attention to the misrepresentation that CRU continue to promote.

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