Comments on: CRU – Then and Now http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/ by Steve McIntyre Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:24:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Inquiry Disinformation about CRUTEM « Climate Audit http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-235950 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:21:32 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-235950 [...] couple of other posts at the time of the Mole incident were here and Dr Phil, Confidential Agent , in which I observed that Jones, as a temperature accountant, was [...]

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]]> By: Richard http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188716 Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:39:56 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188716 Steve,

This is a edited version of what I posted at WUWT (since I got snipped last time):

I have plotted the slopes of the temperature data of UAH, RSS, Hadley CRU and GISS from 1979 to 2008.

(In other words the slopes of the temperature data of all 4 data sets from 1979 to 2008, 1980-2008, 1981-2008… upto 2007-2008, and then plotted the graph of these values for all 4 data sets)

Between the satellite data’s UAH and RSS there is a pretty good match all the way through.

GISS starts diverging from 1992. (Before this date all 4 lines are practically identical). Then the other 3 continue practically identically till 2002, when Hadley starts diverging.

After the above dates not only are the temperatures elevated in the case of GISS, but the downward slope of the graph decreases from 1992 and in the case of Hadley from 2002. (All 4 graphs of the slopes start themselves sloping downwards from 1992)

In the case of GISS the downward trend of the slope levels off from 2002 to 2005. Then it appears to precipitously play “catch-up”.

Is there anything significant about these graphs? Do they tell us anything?

]]> By: rtgr http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188715 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:53:42 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188715 NETHERLANDS 4. One GHCN – check De Kooy, Eelde, Vlissingen

Metainfo on all the dutch stations
http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/metadata/stationslijst.html

hourly data (not homogenised)
http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/uurgegevens/#no
daily data all stations (Not homogenised)
http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/daggegevens/download.html

Central Netherlands temperature (homogenised 4 to 6 stations)
http://www.knmi.nl/klimatologie/onderzoeksgegevens/CNT/tg_CNT.txt

method used;
“construciton of a central dutch temperature”
http://www.knmi.nl/publicaties/fulltexts/CNT.pdf

]]> By: Alan Wilkinson http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188714 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:04:41 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188714 Re: Patrick M. (#23),

Getting a bit ahead of yourself, I think. When Steve publishes some conclusions drawn from the data he will doubtless also publish the data – not just for you but for everyone to review.

In the meantime there are other things to take care of, particularly that nothing in the data can aid the identification and persecution of its source.

Stunts like yours are a pointless waste of time.

]]> By: Patrick M. http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188713 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:41:57 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188713 Dear Mr. McIntyre,

Please send me a copy of the CRU data.

Yours Sincerely,
Patrick M.

p.s. Don’t give me any lame excuses about not being able to release the data due to the confidential manner in which you obtained it. No really, I’m serious.

Steve: I suggest that you direct your question to Phil Jones at CRU. Let us know how you do.

]]> By: Rui Sousa http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188712 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:40:49 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188712 here

]]> By: Rui Sousa http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188711 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:38:22 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188711 Portuguese data can be requested here:

]]> By: Rui Sousa http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188710 Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:21:09 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188710 Just a quick note:

MADEIRA is a Portuguese region, not a country by it self.

You can easily get duplicate data when this kind of errors occur, if you have different sources for you data.

]]> By: BrianMcL http://climateaudit.org/2009/07/25/cru-then-and-now/#comment-188709 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:24:34 +0000 http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=6627#comment-188709 With all of this talk of “secret” weather data I’m reminded of a story told by my high school Geography teacher roughly 20 years ago about Cambodia during the early days of the reign of the Khmer Rouge.
His story was that weather data was the only data they exchanged with the outside world, on the basis that it was so important that even they knew that it crossed national and ideological boundaries.
I’ve often wondered if this were true, but given the goings on at the CRU I can only conclude that it can’t have been.

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